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Good afternoon and welcome to the meeting of the cabinet. Recent meeting will be webcast live to the internet. For those who do not wish to be reported option. You'll Natalie chamber, remembers officers and others speaking at the meeting. It is important that the microphones you use so views on the webcast and others in the room Nightingale. Would anyone with a mobile phone please switched to silent mode as they can be distracting? I would like to remind Members that, although we all have strong opinions on matters under consideration, this important to treat members officers and public speakers with respect. Thank you very much. Everyone
and will go to Item 1 apologies for absence gym, thank you, leader, we've received apologies from Councillors Holgate and should.
thank you very much.
are there any declarations of interest to make a councillor for
luck to declare an interest on the item discussing Anti social behaviour Policy Adult planter, commit any anti-social behaviour, but as a Council tenant I should probably mention.
might be affected by.
any other declarations of interest.
Good OK, thanks very much Item 3 is the minutes to consider and approve as a correct record, the minutes of the meeting held on the 22nd of mine are there any?
issues around the minutes.
happy to.
could I have a seconder?
Councillor Fuller, thank you very much at all those in Pride of please indicate.
that is carried unanimously, thank you very much.
so item for the aforementioned new Council, housing, anti-social behaviour Policy, presumably your leading on this Councillor product that just chucked mishap.
I have been caring for a very jolly good and so.
so good, yet you're going to European leaders service, are you?
yes, Julie good, so I think Councillor Shields was due to present this, but she's attempt to keep her apologies.
so I'm here to recommend to the new,
housing anti-social behaviour Policy just by way of a bit of background,
as a proportion, very few council tenants are badly affected by anti-social behaviour.
we currently have around 50 live cases from all three and a half thousand tenancies, but the impact can be severe, so we are dealing with, anti-social behaviour is an important part of our housing service.
up until now, being the anti-social behaviour service has been governed by.
in a different policy called the Housing and Community Safety Policy, but current best practices that we now have a more specific policy related to anti-social behaviour.
the policy sets out our approach in general terms to responding to reports of anti-social behaviour and our service commitments we do already have a procedure.
that covers the operational work you obviously do in detail and subject to approval for new policy, doesn't really without in any significant changes to our call for working practices.
there are any conflicts, the the Council's overall approach to community safety in a compliments.
it compliments the Council's general approach to community safety and then, and I am satisfied, completing
it's designed to meet the merging expectations of the regulator of social housing.
but, more importantly, it will give Council tenants and other stakeholders
a clear and transparent statement of our service commitments
it sets out what we are calling a hum harm, centred approach, thereby reports will take into account not just the incident itself, but the the victims, and their circumstances to it sets out how we work with other agencies sets out how we prioritise incoming reports of anti-social behaviour,
and it emphasises that will always work. We have the teams or agencies affecting the victim's best interest,
subject to its approval this afternoon, the proceeds.
subject to the approval of the policy be associated, procedures will be updated to make sure that they all set the new policy and there will be relevant training Paul order frontline policy staffed,
I'll stop there, just take any questions.
thank you very much, some excellent as Councillors, do we have any questions or queries regarding the report?
Councillor pressure.
thank you for this, sorry rupees were don't worry, this isn't going rates isn't to launch, I think it's a good policy, I think it builds on what was the housing community safety policy and has used to strengthen that and adapted some areas where,
it is political water at random stop, as opposed to the wider community, and as such, I bought levels of that. I support the policy and will be, I think, on my one question, is how do we keep it in step with the housing community safety policy and do we need to, or how do we reviewed the existing that now we've got our the own policy for our own housing stock, do we need and or what adaptations do we need to make to the wider policy the Housing Communities, taking policy to make sure that that is still a useful and be they don't come out of step and we end up doing because you've just reviewed this and done some things which are up-to-date and you
do we need to refer any both items back to the to the previous policy as well?
yeah, thank you, screw question because.
both policies are kind of overarching settings out in general terms.
there's not really much risk of any specific sort conflict between the two, however, I would say that over the next 12 to 18 months, the housing community safety policy reportedly widened environment and no longer becoming relevant and probably been ended a formal policy as the because everything that seals read.
primarily anti-social behaviour, but also mixes, abuse, hate crime and harassment, when we were in the process of there's anything more specific policies, all of them individually.
it was so
things have moved on a bit since the policies with trusts, developing 2021 that best practice knowledge that you have specific policies, all of those.
thank you very much any other questions or Councillor front, probably more of a comment than a question just on section 9 mentions that you can report via the website now, and so on, I would make the suggestion that it's worth having a chat with the IT team.
about our online reporting because they're doing a lot of work to different areas, creating forms the generate cases in south Wales and say, sorry, it could make managing your work by the lies and fraud in if they have not already done that for,
yet nobody, thank you very much is where you see.
well, thank you very much, some, I, I think, one terrific piece of work in these situations.
I know
having a specific policy, it's called anti-social behaviour, are really does, is the she would say, warring parties have a very clear idea of the wider at the Council's viewing this situation, and I think that is that really crystallise is so so so so people understand the situation there any site, so I think it's a really really good piece of work. I think it'll add clarity to said I was kind of very tense situations
so if, if there are no other queries or questions, would someone like to propose we know and accept a council would like more, thank you very much, I'm very happy to second personally, both in fibre, please shut.
thank you very much everyone, thank you, thank you very much to.
moving on to item 5 opportunities, limited financial review and business plan 2020 for 2025 to 2028 29, and who's gonna talk us through this one?
in fact, I can see Councillor Bradshaw, what a joy it is to see you, Councillor Booth yeah, so yes, please do leader, that's being monitored.
I think everyone knows the officers have been working with Arlene close to review the structure, the financing of the company in order to get it on to a more sustainable basis, and the report both sets out the findings of that review and you've got the the report from Arlingclose attached but also talks about the business plan for the next five years I think it's fair to say that the broad recommendations are easy enough to grasp some of the detailed financial,
yeah underneath that he's not at all easy to grasp the the the first point, where you see the recommendations in section 3.3
the key thing is that opportunity hasn't been paying a commercial rate of interest on the loans from the Council, Sir fuels is long overdue to rectify that, and the recommendation is to have a variable rate set at 2% points above the public Works Loan Board rates and that to being reviewed annually something like a really obvious and sensible thing to do what gets tricky is how you interact that because that requires cancelling existing lines and taking out two new lines and that results in a discount 1.3 million being credited to the company which is all to do with how alone being repaid is valued.
against the line that would be repaid some timeless nature or has done his best to explain that to me we go back after about half an hour, sorry, I've done my best, but it's I think it's fair to say that that's what has to happen and that's how it works and if anyone else we're not sit down with others for half an hour come in that,
what that doesn't mean it is very advantageous to accompany away because that 1.3 million appears in the profit and loss account, it means that accuses loss that will count, the company's carrying forward turns into a cumulative profit.
and then what's happening at the same time is the company is starting to make an operating profit so yeah, on the position is improving, you can see that that laid out in paragraph 5.3
if you look at Paris 6.1, which is about the return to the Council cumulatively, that's it's still when credit, but you'll see the that continues to be here on your negative, all being both in improving, so despite changing interest rates,
there's still a requirement on the Council had been setting aside what's called the minimum Revenue provision effectively.
what will be the equivalent of paying off the principle, and you'll also see an observation that if the company were in a position to start paying a dividend on top of that interest and returned to the Council, would return to positive from about 2028.
couple of other recommendations that the company should satisfied 5% rental income until repairs, once again, that seems comment, really really sensible thing to be doing and that it should have a 5 year rolling business plan rather than the one, given that she marvels a long-term perspective, you'll see there were a couple of things that were explored but not proposed.
one about the potential for selling the company, her mother, about disposing some of the portfolio, I think there's a really helpful analysis in the report in the I enclose report about the breakeven point, the number of units and Council at their company needs to have in order the brain Kingdom said at a point at which is we dispose of properties the risk is you fall for without breaking point.
so that's that's a quick overview of the paper and open to questions, although once the Sherlock probably gonna be better answered by either Orlando, although my personal thanks Chair, thank you very much, Councillor Butcher questions or queries.
Councillor Price. Thank you, I'm I'm delighted properties and that we are doing the right thing in terms of ensuring that the residents and his Council get the best out of that, and I'm really reassured by this report. That's actually what we are doing and that you should check things periodically and make sure that what was true five years ago, Minister trip, and I think that's broadly what the girl said is that you do in the right place, stay with it, but that we understand that there are a number of things. Badelj check. We want opportunity has to be an exemplar landlord in this District, put up a private sector landlord in these difficult, showing people how they should do this thing
we want it to not cost this Council a great deal of money in the future, and that's what this
re-phasing of money does say it reduces significantly in the amount of cost of opportunity to this Council and to our general ready funding, to the extent that pretty much by the end of this Council period, it won't cost us everything from there on in achieving these numbers but yeah numbers will change.
but I've seen me, assuming all things being equal by the end of this Council, dressing breaks even on itself and will start to generate a return for future years.
from a pension costs to the Council, which will be not, I'm sure we can all come up with ways of spending.
and the third thing is that the reason that we shouldn't dispose of any because this there is a high capital value for this will build property portfolio, which is significant and which has a good value to residents going forward and a company which is 100% owned by this council there's no money leaching out.
we're sharing coffee with someone else from its disappearing of he's all any capital growth, each growth in a company which is 100% owned by the Council,
can only be a good, so I think back but as we can see, as we see in 6 point re, the cost at the Council drop, I'll say pretty much to nearby 27 28 and then it becomes a positive return and it becomes much more positive. Actually quite quickly. Is that rolls out over and over the 10 years Blair Field if you're going to make the case to do this, you showed the next five years as well, because the numbers start to get more big and exciting in terms of return at that moment.
and it also deals with the structural issue, which was always a little odd, is that previously the that the interest rate was fixed, no matter what the base rate was, and that was always an odd decision, and the fact that boundary going through varying that they expect dependent on what it costs about that entrants rate depending on what it cost us more of a maximum much more sensitive.
premium, to sorry, a good piece of work, I'm very grateful for your 2000 forbear add to our officers for working during this and make more, I am grateful to the board, I assume they've already accepted the principle behind nurse and therefore this is,
us saying we see what we'd like you to do and on the basis that returns of what will happen, so thank you to them for that, and I'm very happy to move at the report and recommendations.
any other Councillors wishing to comment or add it if I could just.
and a kind of.
in the conclusions in 7.1 7 point in 7.3 kind of encapsulates the principles as it were, rather than getting bogged down in the in the numbers. You know what. I think we would all agree that the capital value of opportunity is a good reason to to continue the fact that we are an exemplar landlord private sector, I think is another really good reason. It's not reaching any conclusions and but the thing that always confused me about opportunities to ask why more, was it making the loss was an idea, I have it, there is the the answer, I don't understand any the figures aid really, but nevertheless that they have got a clear instruction there to to take action to mitigate the net cost is incurring on the capital investment in company by switching from a fixed interest right lung to I variable right line and
you know, it's it's it's long term profitability is assured.
and I think over five years we tend, I get a full cost recovery if we carry with, so it seems to me to be a very, very sensible thing today, so Councillor Pryke, where I think has moved to accept a report on very happy to second if there are no other comments or or questions.
please indicate Councillor Scott progress very briefly that the conversations and discussions.
quite rightly looked at your financial services company recognised the importance of securing that and seeing for 12 minutes something we established and just reminding myself of the social capital which this company has achieved and looking back to the paragraph 2.1 which is the 2014 aims which is to bring the regeneration of accommodating development of services, to think you talk about this footfall of the town centre and is also important to generating the right centres and all those things which are spilling of this company accounts really didn't learn about until I was adopted last year and I think it's an excellent innovation and actually projects in the social capital side and it shouldn't be overlooked alongside the financial,
situation
very valuable point, Councillor Scotland, yet utterly so we have a proposed that we have a seconder on Item fibre, please indicate.
in this unanimous Yemen, thank you very much, everyone.
so we move on to Item 6 annual performance report 22 23 24 and draft KPIs 2024 to 2025 and Uisken leaders through to
we've got the Tim show, starting, I think, so so over to you Councillor brighter.
starting to get the right type of the apologies, I'm very happy if people would prefer to do it for garage, to go through any detail that you want on this report, as you all know, from previous annual performance reports and,
the KPIs, which underlined so can KPIs which aim to that,
this is Gavin, who does those we took it to the Finance submitting to three weeks ago
and they have had a good look through this, they have then re reviewed that reviewed the KPIs allow performance data to the end of the year.
and quite rightly.
the KPI, rightly when you set targets to hit many of them and both take some of them, we should be honest about that, and that's what this report does, and it is almost about where you don't know, I think but also reviews where reviews why we didn't what the issues were there, what changes are being made in order to mitigate that and make sure that wonders whether, when things go and amendments proposals for amendments to a number of the KPIs for this year?
I think it's fair to say that they are generally.
relatively small scale and relatively locks, but because these are KPIs set against the current.
corporate Bath, and we're gonna rebuild the Corporate Plan and therefore it seems to make sense to have a root and branch review of the KPIs.
when you do when we've completed the root and branch review of the Corporate Plan, because then you're going to be met, you want to measure what you want to do and you want to make sure that those things specifically wanted to and we can do some clever stuff around looking at national benchmarks and looking at local exemplar, Local neighbours etc as well at that stage but reviewing our KPIs based on the existing corporate plan and then rewriting the Corporate Plan and then during the second piece of work again seems like doing that twice. So the intention is that this is this is a
appropriate adjustments to a number of the KPIs that just don't make sense segments, removing the ones that don't make sense anymore, moving the ones that a logical, putting in ones that balance that, as required.
so that's the reason why there are a limited number of changes to those, it's not that we don't disappoint many things, but it seems to make sense to set our direction first and then judge how we're going to manage that, how we go into monitor whether we're achieving that rather than rebuilding the monitoring before you set the targets.
I think I should mention, I think, under recommendation 2 at the moment, it says to note that at 22.23 annual performance report, I think that's 23 24.
so we just make the drafting amendment to that recommendation as we're going through, is that where you're saying recommendation to your noting the 23 24 annual performance report, which is in Appendix 1?
and as I can only have also been offered feedback over the Finance sub-committee on which I do not sit, but which had to the 10th two weeks ago is again they thought this was a very good piece of work, they have some detailed questions around some KPIs and if anyone wants to and Gavin has gone backwards response, I think in many if not all, of those cases.
I will leave that open land for any questions which I'm absolutely gonna get Kathryn Tickell,
thank you very much, Councillor brighter, are there any questions or queries with Councillor Paula, thank you Chair.
so that his comments and queries aspiring, I think there are few things that sort of stuck out in terms of the initiatives like I hadn't been aware of the full fibre broadband that was going on on the tunnelling one thing and that that's really positive to avoid that sort of digital excuse exclusions are issue that can affect people downloading sort of social housing and so on. I would be interested to know how much of that at Further Marsh because certainly have had marked Councillors report to move in society, so that is where there might be a particular issue in terms of broadband speeds,
all I also noted the all housing online sign up 18% bright Start, it would be interesting, without wishing to drop Rebecca annex to see a target for that when we do get round to reviewing the KPIs, just as we just change the one for My account really pleased that that's on almost 75% now almost Green plans
and I think the team will enjoy the challenging target, that is 80% and some of that all the yes, some of that will involve going out to places like margins of getting on board.
another one I spotted bins for Green says I'd just like to suggest that Sandgate would probably be a nice place to have one of the things I have no idea how we're using, that would be that, yeah.
but I never never look a gift horse in the mouth, as I say, and obviously the the other thing, the sort of sits on the my area as it worries that was the FY sales are kind of thing, obviously it's been a difficult few quarters and too nice but I'm hopeful that in determining a former now and looking at quarter 4 wanted to have a sort of mining headline freezing the figures above 90% and this is really positive to say.
saying there's not a lot of credit for.
I'll I'll Councillor Statement, I welcome.
not only public sector.
yeah, I mean they are on that point, really I mean there is lots of stuff in here which I think the I think we should have now not going to crochet which I did last, I wish that's our will grow but I mean, for example, you know things right. The recognition of the waste service by the Office for local government, which took this as an exemplar in terms of our our real waste and recycling service and that you know all the statistics for our recycling for missed bins.
all improved and doing really really well, so I think I just think it's there's a lot of really good stuff in one and I think we should be proud.
reader and I will have had great pleasure in in going along to Radnor Park to.
for
photoshoot for the Green Flag status.
no one for the umpteenth time by the by the grounds maintenance single will do fantastic job, and I think you just got an e-mail about how wonderful the grounds looked at its in that it shows a lot of stuff that we're doing really well and I think that I think everybody should be congratulated.
Councillor Blackmore apology.
I just wanted to thank Gavin Robinson cloth Hall comprehensive report Executive saying well set out in an easy to get to grips with there's one target that hasn't been reached, which is actually good news, celebrate the chancellor of the Environmental Enforcement Team the enforcement notices issued were below target.
since 37 against a target of 45, this is actually good news, because it means that the the educational work that they are working so hard on is really working so.
but they have issued needed community protection warnings, and those facts are up for which means that they're having to go to the enforcement level so yeah, Coleman enforcement officers of not having to resort to now because of the hard work they are doing and the educational site.
thank you, sorry, Councillor Blackmore, Mike.
mine was a related point, though we have an average stage note.
so yes, good news on that. However, on the fixed penalty notice for low level environment crimes, including littering and dog control, et cetera, the figure is more than doubled compared with last year to 382 from reading this right, so that's obviously Pollyanna good news that that's obviously the battles there there is, I think, anecdotally. I think it will be a problem with bulk massing things like that. So I suppose the question is KPIs are there for a reason about how to rein direct resources and change work with partners if we need to so what do we do to address the low 11 applied online enviro-crime if that high level of staff sought backlash great, but can we redirect resources to address what I think we'd all agree is a big issue for residents recently about low level stuff
would any officer care to answer that or?
yeah, I'll.
I can come in and without the added comments noted, it's about the direction the resources within within the team within the job specs it garnered as to the we've got, so some of the low level difficult walls are really tricky to catch really push me to catch documents dog fouling and it needs to be sort of any act so to speak and observe.
in order for us to get unsuccessful prosecutions says there are some challenges
we, my general point, is where there's some good successes, as well as feasibility that's out on the on the patch, and that in itself takes resource but comments, absolutely no symptoms can take that back to the to senior managers to perhaps,
so not critical by the workforce unethical for yourself.
so I wouldn't sorry but genuinely I do not like the equivalent jobs, Councillor Blackman, there are to suddenly just coming in on that ever some call last automating about fast-moving the assigns, yes and then amounts for the Sunday 11 Environmental incidents make it as something that can be looked at again.
yes, certainly very happy to take that back 14, of course, when we we will unseen beyond budget setting in September, where we always look at fees and charges, and my attitude, we will look at that and Councillor say or point and feed that into that process is something we can do will certainly title or not.
thank you very much, everyone, I would Councillor speak Morris, could turn up your mind that will be brilliant, thank you very much, that's great.
yeah I like Councillor Paula, you know, you take some time to to read through this, and it's only when I read this document that I'll get an idea of how much actually do.
you forget about all of the older return to then, who staff the we did, with the so so really really does give a real perspective on, you know, the business of the Council.
I I was explaining to Ewan early Adolf had a very good week this week, in terms of all of the news has been good news and the KPIs reflect that, but you know we've had some excellent results in terms of our planning metrics which had been terrific as,
Jeremy point, there are exemplar for waste and recycling Green Flag status, not only on the park and the canal, which is 1 1 many times in the past, but also for the very first time Les Green in Hyde, has won its first Go Green Green Flag and you know,
I, I received a an e-mail from someone in Dallas Texas this morning who visits high every year during the summer because he's married to someone from hard and they come back to the her mother and he felt that high has never looked better with the the grams.
maintenance is excellent, the the Bedser Plan, A no litter is is what he said, so you know, I, you know, we do make a difference and I know I think these KPI, so thank you very much
Gavin needs. This is really good news. You know, I know that it would unleash, you can only get good news, I know the news is bad, she would give that as well, but I think you know you are the delivery of good news in this, so so on are we always really cheered reading reading the report with our performance overall site? So are there any other comments or questions or or things to say, and I say that and so happy to move. You are happy to your happy to my brought on very happy to second, so all dogs in fibre, please indicate. Thank you very much. That's jolly good
and so I think we move on to episode two of the Councillor prior to show received.
thank you, what what will please you is that, when it comes to the Council issued petition, she's asked for me to suffer for that.
at congratulations to everybody else had not answering your e-mail to that one, the so yes, you're looking at the General Fund, Revenue 23 24 provisional editor.
which the report summarises general fund revenue expenditure against a full budget, the Council.
fatties that was put on to the Council's,
that was what it says, it's being prepared for publication on the Council's website that she went off just before the 30th June, thanks to our and working the weekend in order to make sure that that got out there before the end tonight, so thank you for that.
and you should bear in mind is provisional, and at this moment it does not include the group accounts so effectively opportunities and optical park, which I thought about going to say, there's a little a little bit more work to go before we haven't final figures to go fraud it but this Act to report what went to the Finance and performance Scrutiny Committee after reminded on the 2nd of July, and again they've been through this report kick applies the headlines are.
as the recommendations that the third headliner being, probably the key one, is that the Council, in 22 the council set a budget for 23 24, but we were going to take pretty much 1.8 million pounds from reserves in order to have in order to make the budget work,
I'm actually in total, in the end, we took the 60,000 pounds from the new figures in order to make the budget work is 1.7 2 4 million pounds better.
Van it was rejected debate, and that includes the fact that in the revenue budget there was 1.1 4 1 million pounds which we didn't spend on projects and this year, which have been wrongful Batman, has been wrong forward for next year because those projects are so important are still going to happen and struggled to dump and the money for those it has been rolled into into this year's budget in order to make sure that those things go ahead. So it's not that we just say to the cash and have decided not to do those things and we're working out those projects are still that money has been multiple, observes that that those projects go ahead and that's very important
so actually, in terms of in terms of the financial position and the outer terminal, pretty much unalloyed good news, I'm pretty much.
although it is about the budget pretty much balanced for last year.
when it was mentioned a cost of 1.8 million pounds part of the General Fund, clearly for this year we set ourselves a balanced budget to begin with, and I fully intend to that we're gonna get to the end of the year and we're going to be at least got maths as well but the the trend of goo we managed to deliver a trend of good news starting early which is great.
the the report and the appendices giving all of the detail in where those movements and I think that's the one place that I welcome, the I will just come back to and its discussion, older Jonathan Olivia and myself and Susan have had in some insignificant detail in the paper the Finance Sub-Committee as well is that clearly during the course of the last year and you've been seen quarterly revenue Act reports projecting where we were going to get to the end of this year.
and certainly at the end of quarter, three broadly projecting that we've been having a half, a million pounds underspent, just under a half, a million pound Ombudsman, and therefore to get to the end of quarter 4 at the end of the full financial year and has found that we actually have an underspend of 1.7 something million pounds.
is?
an exciting Christmas present, but if you're accounting, you don't like surprises.
am, I think something we, we've learnt some lessons from Mark Hoban, some lessons about how that reporting is done and some of the things that you can take into account as your building those projections as we go through the year effectively, some things were being projected and say this will change in some changes will change and then you get to the end of the year. I believe the whole series of other matters which actually changed it very significantly at the end, actually, that whole series of other matters we could have done a bit earlier in the process and made some reasonably educated guesses about how that was going to add to, and so we could have seen that a bit earlier and you can crispy that bit more, I'd still prefer to be pessimistic in terms of our projection. Are you on the side of caution in terms of projection, but I think half a million to 1.7 million pounds was possibly more on the side of caution and I'd like to debate I'd like to be closer about back some workers all are, and Nadia, anything the company leading on over the course of the coming months, to make sure that those reports
they will, we should have confidence in them, not just think older money is going to be pulled from the hat at the last minute, we should be confident that those projections are broadly where we can the window but, as I said, if you're going to take a surprise get a good surprise and we've got a good surprise,
so the news is good, very good for the General and fatties, then good news for future years, as well as reducing the cost of borrowing and all sorts of things in Caitríona says it has knock-on good news.
I'm sure that by the time the order to to dealt with it and looked at various other costs and write-offs, et cetera, the news will change slightly in terms of the present day in terms of what you end up with here, but the details there are any detail on or any specific detailed questions on numbers and the items, absolutely things like the as quality looks that are, particularly if you haven't I asked him in writing in advance, but I should say thank you very much to the Finance Team for all of the work in getting this.
settings and obviously the annual accounts filed at 1.00 of the hard things that the team has to do during the course of the year.
and I'd just like to say thank them for the fact that will certainly be thank God for the fact that actually he did land them get them on to the website and by the 30th of due which looked shaky like for a minute so Welply so yes, they're there in front of you and I'm happy to move.
do we have any questions or queries with regard to this report, at a Councillor Blackmore one minor Queenan I don't wanna put people on the spot again, because I did it over dogmas, sorry, I'm very happy someone's come back to me afterwards. I was just curious. That's what the unbudgeted Napier Barracks. Grant income refers to what that money is and what we can spend that money on.
yes, produce our current about what.
so.
we are advised at certain points in the year on an allocation of
income service users, and that for this music carries with it a contribution to the local authority, the support services that will provide that calculation was higher than we thought and I think from memory it probably contains a section 31 grant which means that we're actually is quite a flexible form of funds which means that the returned to the government and the monitoring of setts at times,
treated in the flat with away and some other licence such returned monitoring Section 31 grants are really useful and welcome Edinburgh, Richmal, flexible and discretionary, however, they have been put their against that metric, which allows us to undertake various community safety activities in and around the area with partners education facilities, one another things like that so hopefully that gives us a bit more about that it's not competes in a controlled in terms of numbers.
it's actually depending on demand and supply about.
facilities and available space, and of course, throughout the was some Members have been might be aware about one and a new strategy that the Home Office has got or dispersal, and for us, I think in terms of accommodation for.
statutory contact service user so we maintain a contract, RGC Joycean, through that work, but that hopefully gives you a little bit about the and British dear, the embarrassing income that we have.
hopefully are satisfied instead approach, thank you very much for Councillor Scotland.
I'll just looking at the ear marked reserves and again this may be a question to pick up on matters but other to meet the climate change reserve, which was basically gone from 4.6 million on 1st of April 23 2 3.6 million on the 1st of April 20 or so is dropped by million and I'm not quite and I'd like to understand a little bit more about where how that's happened.
I appreciate the complexity of the money that's been spent, the money that has not been spend our money is being allocated within its possible.
contingencies and so on and so forth, but out the first thing is that it will be useful for many of the portfolio holder with this particular area for me in my mind, to know a little bit more about that million pounds.
we are all supposed to say we need now got to the point where we got 3.6 in the funds and to recognise that these are really important, ear marked reserves, were very important work and to to see that as much of the money that is allocated reserve you know but I was very bracken to come into effect overall whether as a result of behind this and that is an extraordinary if need be to be.
to see that that money doesn't continue to dwindle over the years referred, bearing in mind all the dragons held about the need to hold on to the earmarked reserves in.
as it were, given the uncertainties that we know that the based that have I trudged right under my desire to George's funds are as carefully as we can and I was out and we are a little bit more about how we have spent 1 million pounds or whatever we have some because I have asked for if you think there's not haven't actually got to that point.
I think we have an answer from Dr Chris.
I'm sure it, hopefully, is gonna be exactly the same as or anything like that and just to reassure you and Councillor Scotland that there is a full reconciliation of the spend which very happy outside of the meeting put the team share with you, so I think that was absolutely satisfy you on the level of detail about what how when etc very helpful and it would help them to understand what we may or may not be able to do in the future, thank you very much,
Councillor Peter
yes, on both those points, actually so, on Stephen's point on that, their walls, I mean agreement through Cabinet and Council once stage disease, some money from that worsening towards the transformation project managed one of the movement's there, and obviously there have been a number of projects. Actually it doesn't yet green improvement grants and things like that because also meant when he said, but the form this will be provided. I think it's input, section seals, Section C, and it's referred to that vulnerable that the the numbers are in there, but now I can't find the damping either, so I'm I can't read about, but I think we're going to give you the full employment
all Michael Councillor Blake will on the Napier barracks on it. I think that's a really good example of where movements occur in year and towards the end of the year, which actually can't explain you can no are coming for you so there are, so there are. There are the known unknowns and the unknown, and then and the government just turning round at later in the year and giving you more money than you expected is one of those moments whereby something will reserve was something will move and I would couldn't have guessed I couldn't have said in court us at the end of quarter three, that there is that the government suddenly going to give you more money than you expected, you just didn't know that one that just happens and some so there is still going to be an element of that.
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but there are there, as there are some things in those movements at the end of the look at and think actually you could have made a a projection of Raddatz Karen, and there will still be some of that sort of thing whereby suddenly some Kashgari's unless the government actually sorts its night-time at this stage under the new government to turn around and actually does budgeting over a long period of time and actually makes commitments and sticks to those, I'll let help me breath
but that would be great if you could actually know where you're going and nowhere your budgeting for know exactly what things weren't going to move around you, I'm absolutely means in terms of expenditure as well as income before anyone listening.
so, but that the I thought that was a really good example, you've picked up on a really good example, something but actually couldn't afford C and was who does just change the dynamic and it is reasonably significant amount of money, but clearly not 1.2 million pounds per year and that's really make a difference, sorry both those I'm apart from our I think I think I think miserable for staff continue to do so.
thank you very much.
so that's all the questions and comments.
I will have to add at 1.00.7000000 tomorrow, good news week list of I'll preface surprises to shocks, so and so yeah, so we had.
a proposer, I'm very happy to second,
all those in favour please indicate
thanks everyone Jim Murphy, thank you very much, everyone and we're on to item 8 general fund capital programme, provisional outturn, and it's Councillor Peter.
a report was written the, as we know, as you've seen this, before, capital programmes are tends to have more slippage in the programme, so do it's the big, expensive, difficult to do stuff, and some of those things tend generally tend to slip.
take a bit longer than you hope go a bit later, require a bit more input, so there is often more slippage in the Capital Programme from the problem from one year to the next year, then a you'd hope, but it's almost inevitable in cases build large things don't happen in financial years and crossing low cost venues were across financial years.
but there is very detailed reporting, so if you look entering point to, for instance, you can seek out detailed reporting of where those movements of you can see and you can see where money is being rolled forward or projects which I will happen next year so for instance you've got the coach drive development I think budget in a fair amount of practice I think this year and it hasn't the lots of the planning data, lots of the underlying work, sexism collapsing in terms of putting things for bats in this financial year, he said hopefully when he granted North yeah in this financial year and what the flexible but whether it will finish in this financial year we will find out.
so that's where things like that take some time and with the best will in the world, factors around planning issues that was around issues negotiating with the Crown Estate things, but just slowing down because it will be difficult, things take time, but the report is in front of you I don't know if either Aldi or Allah or Andy or you want to make any comment on the detail there, but it's House returns.
again.
I think it's it's good news, but that when when it shows you that we'd withheld for 8 millimetres varies less unusual than we think it is the but it feels and it isn't and looking at each of the individual underspend is now and I think that there's any cause for concern that things are happening slower than that should be, I think what the issues are generally around facing into things like yeah, you put things into the budget for one year and they do often take longer, but I don't think there's any cause for alarm Emma I'm happy to move the report
thank you very much, Councillor pressure, Councillor Smith yeah, just a detail, which I was slightly curious about, was the coast protection would presumably rolled over the top top line, I just sort of thought that was something that was pretty kind of regular and standard.
so it is advised as well.
substantial amount of money that will didn't go into the data protection, presumably on time, I don't know who just want to force.
that's relating to not be beach replenishment as another son was being held at the moment from the Environment Agency to be police stabilisation works not behind the Southern Water treatment pumping station on caught-behind coordination right where we've gone out to market for for the project going out to tender attendance name back much much higher than the 742,000 pounds allocated.
we are currently in discussions with you know about how they want to progress with that scheme and if they want to progress with it, so that's what asphalt older.
okay, any further questions or issues as Councillor Peter has proposed, I'm very happy to second all guys in paper, please indicate.
thank you very much everyone, and this is.
ITEM 9 housing revenue I can't review Catherine provisional outturn, and it is Councillor Brighton.
yeah, I'd like to thank Rebecca for this particular hospital pass and I hope she gets well, so the recommendations are.
in front of it, so this is for both the revenue and capital provisional into accommodation in front of you say, and recommendation 2 is the key one because that's the thing or do stuff, so that's recommending the approved that's approving the carry forward of 8 85,000 pounds worth of staff from the revenue account into next year.
3 million pounds worth of capital budget into next year for things that work and to during last year and report.
as you can see again, the revenue well forward as much more much smaller than the Capital One for exactly the combination that we just have.
in the general fund budget as well.
I think it's fair to say there are actually, on the whole, the Housing Revenue account, I think, very close continued I'm very close to budget in terms of our internal expenditure is at the moment the capital program as what is very extensive as well as being very expensive and is doing on work.
things which at but again
minutes of the more difficult to get out of the door because there are only a certain number of buildings on people who can do the work on certain a certain number of households that you can work on simultaneously, all of those bits of work and underspent et cetera of details about the capital,
roll forwards, for instance, are and 2.2 point 5.
a lot of which is around at thermal efficiency of housing but Telecare in there as well.
it's a big piece of work which is still needs to be done in the next year as we move from analogue to digital.
and various other pieces of where you can see detailed there as well, if there are any questions, I'm going to start and then, hopefully, getting stopped making again.
happy to me, Julie good, any questions or queries about the Housing Revenue account.
Mo okay, I'm very happy to second, so all those in favour, please, in return.
thank you very much, and we'll all be delighted to know that have at the next item will be covered by Councillor statement.
thank you will remember wonder, update on Croker focus development, so I think just to summarise where everyone anyone observing I'll try and put this succinctly, as I can. By way of introduction to the report, provided an update on the town centre regeneration projects focused around the former Debenhams, store acquired by the Council in 2020 and subsequently renamed assault at the property comprised, an Edwardian redbrick element 39 forecourt one and a lot of Deco extension. Fronting Sangay, was referred to as far too so it was originally envisaged in is envisaged in this project that a brand new state of the art medical facility would be situated in the focal one, providing a substantial capital receipt to be used as a required Ma match funding for the wider levelling up projects, including focus to
now the report explained why this arrangement is in fact no longer possible, as the NHS has confirmed that the medical centre in Folca one is not financially viable for them and it goes on to outline the reasons for the recommendation to explore the option of Hawker to as an alternative location for the medical centre. The report further updates members on the levelling up front funded work relating to focus too and the emerging proposed occupancy mix it request authorisation to explore alternative options and forecourt one with the outcomes of that work presented to members later in 2024 25.
it is imperative that Folca one is able to provide a capital receipt or substantial revenue income stream to provide the match funding for the wider levelling up found regeneration project lastly, the report provides an overview of the current civic offices and seeks approval to explore its disposal to facilitate park occupancy and look forward to building and provide a capital receipt to help fund the folk to redevelopment the full business case report for 2 will be presented to members later in 24 25.
as you can see, the progress project is a complex and ambitious project which will bring much-needed regeneration defection town centre, however, it is now at a critical stage, and Cabinet is asked to consider the recommendations laid out in the report to provide the necessary authorisation to all the quality continue, so recommendations as later are as follows.
to receive and note report and a report to note that the medical centre proposal porker, one is not financially viable for the NHS to approve exploring the options for a medical centre to be located within 4 4 2 4 is to authorise officers to consider options regarding the future of focal 1 and returned to Cabinet later in 24 25 with recommendation to agree the central works at the end of local authority building funded by
nothing upfront commences.
6 recommendation to authorise officers to explore the disposal of existing civic centre site reporting back to Cabinet in due course.
and finally, the final recommendation 7 to note the Forward to business case and financial modelling will be presented to Cabinet later in 2024 25.
thank you.
thank you very much, Councillor statement, our questions queries comments.
Councillor prior to
yeah, can you let us come, firstly, thank you for the report and the recommendations, whether it with which I agree, I wanna play the role of rent as I tend to on some of the, although I think bits of this.
because it suddenly feels like it's a very big or very big project which, as a jigsaw so you're talking about this site and you're talking about the focus site, and it suddenly feels like it's gravel from expanding iron good worthwhile actually ourselves back up as to why it is doing that our where we're to, when the Council or when the Cabinet of the previous administration was,
we put this and an offer was made for Frankel won by the NHS, that was about putting all single bouncing medical facility, bringing tools bringing together two surgeries and adding significant additional medical facilities into that building, so it became a real health centre
based right at the heart of Folkestone, and that made a lot of sense.
I also want to say that when it was produced brought to that Cabinet at that stage there was no suggestion from the NHS at that stage of losing the building and building a new one that was never said at any stage in Mathematica period later and the proposal when proposals will then start he floated by the NHS local government is that in order to get that all singing all dancing building on to that space you'd have to knock it down and build a new one which is 6 m high.
that was news to many of us and
no, not pleasant, even slightly, however, in the intervening period they've got away, they've looked at their all-singing all-dancing, 6, storey building and realise that the NHS budget, the money point and they can't afford to do that and to build that facility and no doubt I am looking at what is effectively a much more what you've got at the moment, that is the central Folkestone facility based, in fact the 2 which would fit in that space because it's nowhere near as big as that they will go into build on paperwork.
sorry focal, one is of I'm tempted to say that spoke of, but will.
the so that's that's why we've been left with pro-coal one as.
I'm unviable for them, it is a surprise to me that the small building which wasn't big enough for their all-singing all-dancing medical centre, isn't actually big enough for their not all-singing all-dancing medical centre in itself, but that's NHS accounting for you and it is outside our control I wish we could control that I wish we could add an offer, but it's not in our gift to make that thing happen or not.
where the dynamic comes with the Civic Centre and proca to is then interesting.
and important, because, obviously, as we own that building as the discussion about whether you know this, the Council is occupied peace-building for since 1960 something and it is decreasing and the fit for purpose, it is too big.
too expensive to manage too expensive to run as a building, it's not a good use of this site, now it'll be a question, there are questions within this paper resolved.
well, so OK, what else could you do with the site, what else can you do with the relevant clinical Radnor estate having covenants on it, what's it worth, what does it do, and the answer to that is that we don't know any of those things, so that's what the papers allowing us to do to go and ask those questions and find out some of the results of those things so we can work out whether it is a useful piece of the jigsaw to print.
and I think there's also been significant discussion about where the council sits and Webb, if we come out of the site where people go, and he is absolutely right that the centre of the main conurbation, Folkestone paid, is where customer facing the people who are speaking to the or both they sit so that people can go in and see folk some quite District Council and speak to somebody as I'm have a physical presence, I think that the centre of Folkestone as a good place for that for people who are speaking to people almost all of the time on the phone or on the internet or at,
at Stratford all there is certainly I think it is certainly very open to question as to whether sitting in the centre of Folkestone in Cloyne retail spaces the right place for that.
I that's again part of the jigsaw question that Susan and others are wrestling with amendment is where the second saying he got some people who should sit in the centre centre at the time and some people who could or could not, and that's why that dynamic these things will. I personally prefer to see more of property used as a community facility and as retail and shops and entertainment and fun, because that was the purpose of having extra begin with. Wasn't there's gonna be offices, it was going to be subtle, it was a draw to the town and a draw to bring people in, and as much as I'd like to think about it, I think of us that way, Susan is not a draw to the central Thaxton
too many other things and many.
but very, very few people are going to visit her folks in the history of Bangor Road in order to see season, whereas there are other thing of other draws from other uses of outer space that that might draw those people it, so I know that that piece of that's part of the piece of work which is going on here I'm very much consideration that and making sure that there is retail and entertainment or community offer into that building them into that space and then therefore where we're talking about a capital receipt albeit going towards protecting that's very much looking at.
and it does speak back for the last month or so I think that's very much speaking about that customer facing part of that and the FA funding bat powerful that obviously we would need to sit the staff needs to go some if there is a remaining body of staff on customer facing they need to know someone as well that we need to be funded as well, we need to see how that works and whether that's where they will sit.
but that doesn't necessarily mean that we sell this have got all of the money and developed to because that to achieve the aims of the workforce, so although it feels like a paper which has flood that has grown like Topsy a bit and where we have one building before splitting into two bits of memory discussing the Civic Centre as well as that's getting rid itself there are a lot of moving parts to it, but what this is doing is a saying that,
K the NHS, who wanted hope one don't want it any more, what use can be made of that building and, indeed, how can we get some of our money back on back building and get it back into use?
quickly, which is the point of it is really getting into new service, is actually doing something for the time.
the medical centre within focus Sue OK. That is a good can if that is a community use for that. Thank you. It fits the outfits the requirements and the rest of it's about looking at those other options, looking at those other variables, where would people say what is this worth to anybody if it's worth adding more to talk with the Radnor estate to it, and I will say you can build a bit, it's not worth anything to anyone and we get to have very difficult conversations with ourselves.
and and bringing back that business case sale and will be clearer some of the history of that and some of the reasons why it feels like questions that are different parts of different parts of the business are actually being considered at the same time following it's important that we do so giving the right thing to have done the right thing to acknowledge.
but every time and paper on felt that comes back, it seems to get bigger in scope to scope and scope.
and there is a reason for it, I hope we can continue to go, it's gonna take a long time to go through, but I I do support or recommendations happy to second.
any other question I'm sorry, Councillor Smith yeah, I just want to come back on that I mean putting it simply generates a very complex project with a lot of difficult moving parts which if you knew that what then you have to consider how it links into that and and all the match funding elements yeah I I can't disagree what he said. I think hopefully that gives people that
an idea of what all the complex factors are to make this thing, which you know will will be, I think, had the potential bring to really regenerate the central Ferguson, which is what this is all about, and that's what we want to try and make sure happens so yeah just say I just reiterate, I think this this hickory allow officers sufficient scope to
explore all the complexities to be able to pull this together.
thank you OK, assessment, did you propose thing,
fantastic and Councillor Peter has seconded, so if there are no other questions or comments, all those in private, please indicate.
thanks unanimous right, thank you very much, everyone.
the last item I think he's made
the corporate plan, I think its main,
so
yes, Item 11 new Corporate Plan update on progress and proposed public engagement, so the the working group has been meeting regularly and I think, engaging in summer, some very interesting and
wide ranging discussions,
and on delighting with with the work.
thus far, great thanks to a urine and his team for for putting down on paper them all of the kind of the ramblings of crucifixion great great, how Adrian managed to find an expression for some of the kind of loose concepts that were thronged round, I am in awe, but there are very, very good piece of work so effectively what happens now is we are approving at the the draft.
corporate plane things we can't have a.
themes and priorities what we got for public engagement, so they'll be, so there's a there's a long road to travel, yet
but we have to have the document to go out, to ask people what I think, and so this paper is all about looking at what we cannot so far in terms of.
our themes and priorities to approve the draft consultation plan, how where how we're going to Council to approve the survey questions for a corporate plane consultation, and there was a lot of discussion around the the questions at the working Group, for individual respondents to group respondents and to delegate authority to the Director of strategy and resources to approve any supporting material that comes along with the documentation and to make minor amendments to corporate plan themes in consultation plan just as we as we go through the process.
so at the the plane is over there, I won, I won, fortunately go through it.
it Councillor Scott from played a leading role in, shall we say, shaping the plane around the
Chris principles of sustainable development as published by the United Nations, so for me this is very much I
I I.
a global framework with a local response.
and we've got a correct at a global problem where trying to address, and I think, basing our Corporate Plan, A Randles, 17 principles really does put it in context for me, so as on very very happy to move the the recommendations and very happy to open the floor for discussion any questions or queries or comments or Councillor for,
year cut things, one on the the events as it where it was nice to see various events going on.
evangelism for Sangar again, would you consider having an event at the same festival as it were Gainsborough consultation there that's the August bank holiday, so it'll be a nice little while also finishing.
the other thing, and I probably just missed it in the report or something, but I didn't see if you are going to produce, you know, you've got obviously people, surveys and so on that we're back.
I didn't see any them and mentioned as accessible versions of them, easy read versions are qualified, I'm assuming that's just because it's it's a given by, for I mentioned a while out anyway.
yeah, so positive answers to both of your questions, Councillor Fuller, yes, we will be delighted to consul at the
at the Sandgate festival, and yes, you quite rightly given, but we will, we will state that all suitable, accessible routes will be or will be provided for everyone to to participate in the consultation.
any other comic, OK, sorry, Councillor Lightmoor.
yeah, I was really excited to say this for the first time and I think it's brilliant, it's really really good, and also really applaud the ambition of the consultation process.
I have some comments on the improving people's health well-being, such community section, my patch of light and shadows now yeah.
so it's on page 1 8 5, so my first on the guiding principles, I'm not sure what welcoming everyone and removing barriers to access means, what barriers and access to what I'm not quite sure that access to the district was that access to things like that's one thing.
on the first of the, we will bullet points, improving people's health, wellbeing and safe by working with local health services schools in place in terms of safety, we worked with a lot more partners than those, and so it doesn't really reflect the communities. Thank the Community Safety Partnership I think has about 30 partners in or so with a lot of statutory and non-statutory organisations that are part of that, so it reflects health and wellbeing very well doesn't reflect safety quite so well.
and then on the next point, work with partners and local roads to provide emergency support for residents while aiming to end of lights on food banks to think people's basic needs. So I think there's a TPO, it's very specific about food banks, whereas I think we could make a more general point about providing support to people and it's not just in an emergency, so in the example of food you have the food bank renewals of the country services which, once the emergency has passed provided route back to people, been able to buy food at a reduced rate with the dignity of buying it rather than relying on it.
the aspiration to end the reliance on food banks, and this is obviously a lot of the one that would you will appreciate that there have always been for the thanks of one sort or another, and it's not really within our gift to eliminate them much as we would like to.
I'm not sure we can do that we might be able to decrease the need for them, possibly through what people.
and then on the next one, encourage people to lead more active lives by improving sports grounds are we've been specific about improving sports grounds or again, do we want to make a more general point about?
is it about sports grounds is about sports facilities?
so are we talking about improving the Council's Sportsground, because obviously there are three hills which is privately run, or are we talking about improving access to and?
publicising the availability of those facilities for people, which I think would be a valuable thing to do, and because there are lots of sports facilities around district privately run, which would very much welcome us sending more people that way and encouraging more people to do that in pursuit of health and fitness.
I think that was all I had
sorry, no, thank you.
if I can ask.
would you be, I will I have you know to does or or would yeah, so you've got them, OK, I'll security, good work.
I don't think any allows are unreasonable might I think we can probably a comment I on all of that is one way or another, the first bit of feedback from consultation and we go to justify.
Natasha
Councillor Scotland yeah, I'm as I was involved in the working group as.
said, and it was a cross party working group which is really important, so all shades of political opinion has contributed to this, I can't as possible.
I really welcome it and I think they were very good place with his draft on one level you might just say, well, you know this is a list of things which are good things to have and we welcome those who wouldn't want audiences and of course that makes perfect sense in on one level that's exactly what the Corporate Plan is, but I think what for me mix even better since as it were is it will be able to bring those nice things to have all those good things to have together in a framework.
and that framework is, it could have been a number of different frameworks which we use, that the sustainable development goals provide a policy framework which is amenable to to this sort of work and which gives a checklist. In a way of saying what I missed out, because when you do a nice to have lets, you end up with a list of things you don't know whether you have got everything that tricky the. Whereas the sustainable development goals which have emerged from the millennium development goal, which are themselves emerged from agenda 21, which go back to the Rio conference and so on, have a very long pedigree and one of the key things about the loss that will bring together confirmed to the Environment. What we're concerned with the environment in a recognition that we actually depend on environments are our livelihoods 12th who don't have clean, air, clean water and you get bathroom then the game's up, and that was a really important message. None of this is one things illnesses that are present in the room, because everybody is aware of that, but nobody really wants to think about it too much keener if the last three,
shelter without that we know so the environment is the base, but actually one of the great things about the sustainable development goals, in all the obviously to be around it is it brings in the social dimension. Says you're not gonna get anything all agree with that, Mrs dot the social determinants of development, where people live their lives, the way society is organised, committees, economic affairs, all those things come into that, and so you've got the two sides of the Commons and as it were, the
have some key aspects of the social scientists, governments and partnerships, which is, as we are part of that process, and it's really important to remember that so we have an opportunity to make disappointment and despair
community in the way that we think we can do something positive in the face of the global crisis that we face, so it is a great opportunity, and I really like the framework, and I think I'm thinking of potatoes, so one thing I'd say we're looking for is that when we come to
on the negotiating people at the National, Rural employment is on, we've got that did not proceed. Partnerships and working with communities is number one is our five priorities. I think they're great Barrett is, I would argue that we thought, had environment and and confirm that changes are listed a number 5, because that's the basis on which everything depends. You can get them in that order. Well, it seems that the technical think we shifted them round right not as possible, using theories that at every stage that would be great. The other thing I would say is when we come on to page 1 9 5, which takes us to the consultation again, the introduction to the consultation that able to write an essay of sampled too lengthy and I really appreciate the way we perceive
I think the grassland and the work that goes in it, actually I've had guarantee sort of thinking and aspiration is another way of expressing works and Johnny difficult and I've got lots of the conversions and rather than the quite right, I think there are somewhere, I think, at the beginning of the consultation, if it were possible to flag up, that you know this is a innovative prescription. There's an aspiration and ambition is not just an exercise is not just the local councils only moderate strategy with an ambition behind this corporate plan to get this district
there's something really positive and really worthwhile, so we can flag that central aspiration, you remember, it's not a vision, note, the word vision is eminently suitable plant, it could be,
hierarchy doesn't have a bit more if we could make it clear that what we're trying to do, as well as doing all these good things which witnessing, wants to have, when savings as the way in which local action to contribute to global crisis are global problems. That that idea, I think Local Act Local is what's missing after the latter where the beginning? I think that would be worth flagging up at the beginning, and I think the third thing he could get it. It doesn't look demography sentences if you weren't at a phrase, the third thing would be it looks in the future. Yeah, we're all concerned to see that our children and our grandchildren have a future in this world. How do we get nothing to be installed? Increasing numbers of people will contribute more and more, and we know that Birmingham, that's what's happening, how do we actually to that in my climate and that decisions that we've got Artington children were facing, so there's an intergenerational form of what the future. Looking so it is a future form of the aspirational plan and its response to in 9 9. The moral duty that we have
in our policing as District Councillors, to do what we can be bought at the environment and to make wise choices' now, and I just think that we can expect a bit more strongly in the introduction to the consultation on marketing properties, because I come back on that seems to be much thought the so thank you for I've been very pleased to engage in the process easier for businesses that get too carried away.
so a little bit of passion isn't a bad thing when you are left-handed capacity in Newcastle to.
okay, are we able to accommodate all of that under were obviously with 5 point to, we will be able to accommodate that that kind of emphasis is good Councillor for sorry, there was one thing I forgot earlier actually when I was
scrabbling on, as it were, the on page 191. One of the things we mentioned is being open, democratic and building trust, and some really good things in there about the committee system and so on, but I think it would be useful to have a sentence or a bullet point about how how we look at transparency and we are making arrangements that will be transparent in everything that we do, because that has been unfairly. At times there has been criticism, work tends to appear on social media of the council and it's
saying that we're going to that were we had bear that in mind and we're going to tackle, that is no bad things are sorry it's worth considering.
Councillor London.
my corresponding, I forgot.
on page 1 8 4, we kind of alluded to it and we mentioned apprenticeships and training are pleased that we don't mention shops or employment, any whether and I think it would be politics rates.
work in a reference there to perhaps in that penultimate bullet point where we talk about promoting apprenticeships, training up to, maybe we should also mention jobs, recordable or somewhere on that page, I think that would go down well.
but, John Goodall, I think all of that, obviously this is, this is a process which is going to move forward, so so once will try and accommodate everything that senior, but you know there will be plenty about the opportunity to to input into this, but in terms of you know what we'd got here we are well on the way to to achieving we want, so I just think again, urine and i-Tree, and in particular, but the other members of the same grant here, who might sensible with that for us and I've proposed could I have a seconder, they're all think Councillor Scotland to second all those in favour please indicate.
thank you very much everyone, and I think that's the conclusion of the business for this afternoon, thank you.