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Cllr Anita Jones - 0:00:00
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:00:05
Microphone Forty - 0:00:05
good evening, everyone.
if you would like to pray letters prang.
Heavenly father, we thank you for the opportunity to gather tonight and discuss the issues affecting the people and environment of this district, at Folkestone and high.
we asked tonight, Lord, that you were blessed the Chair and all of the Councillors in their ministry serving the people of their wards, may they strive to work together for the common good of all in this place on, and we give you thanks, Lord, that we have the freedom to exercise our democratic rights these past few weeks.
thank you for the service of an outgoing MPs, Damian Collins and Damian Green.
and now we ask that you would inspire our new MPs, Tony grown and Sergeant Joseph, to care for the people of their constituencies and to work towards their flourishing on them.
tonight, as we gather and collect donations for the Rainbow Centre, we asked that these offerings would go far to support those who rely on the centre.
give shelter to those who have no hand food and essentials to the hungry and needing community to that only and dignity to all bless the work of the Rainbow Centre in our district and all those who gave their time to seeing this be a place of hope and love are men.
and finally.
we hold before you, our young people tonight, Lord for a generation beset by such social, financial and Bentall burdens, may they not give in to despair, rather give them, and all generations hope hope that the world and our communities can be better than they are hope that they will find the resilience, support and love to overcome all of life's hardships.
and hope that they may inherit a flourishing world.
now Lord, give us grades to work for all that we have paid and a fellowship to do so together.
our men.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:02:30
thank you.
so good evening and welcome to the meeting of Full Council. This meeting will be webcast live to the internet. For those who do not wish to be recorded or filmed, you will need to leave the Chamber, members, officers and others speaking at the meeting. It is important that the milestones are used, so viewers on the webcast and others in the room. May here you would anyone with a mobile phone, please switch at silent mode as they can be distracting. I'd like to remind Members that, although we all have strong opinions on matters under consideration, it is important to treat members officers and public speakers with respect. Please note, I appreciate that some Members might not be able to stand when addressing the meeting. Therefore, I will, of course, permit those members to speak without the need to stand at meetings of Full Council

1 Apologies for Absence

thank you, so before we continue with the meeting, and I would like to have a moment's silence for former Councillor landlords Len was a district councillor for 20, from 2015 to 2019, was also a Parish Councillor per Lydd Town Council from 2017, and I think it's really important that we just recognise his service to our district and Ms town so they could have a moment's silence.
thank you.
and will start with the agenda so festival we have apologies for absence.
Dr Susan Priest - 0:04:25
thank you, Chair and.
good evening, councillors, colleagues and members of the public we have fixes apologies for absence this evening.
so apologies received from Councillor Deputy Kelly, Davidson, Goddard Holgate's and Campbell and she.
thank you, I'm moving on to Item 2 declarations of interest, do we have any declarations that you would like to make this evening?

2 Declarations of Interest

Councillor Tony Hills - 0:05:00
Councillor Hills, thank you, Chair I and indeed you will KCC.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:05:05
thank you very much will note that and we'll move on to Item 3 on the 0sorry.
Cllr James Butcher - 0:05:13
Cllr Jackie Meade - 0:05:15
Councillor Mead, thank you, as we declare in KCC, I also need to make that declaration.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:05:19
Cllr James Butcher - 0:05:21
and Councillor richer yeah, I think opportunity, as is mentioned on the agenda, sonar declare any director of opportunity, thank you and
Cllr John Wing - 0:05:28
Councillor wing, yes Hoofield, Rachel arbitrariness and Councillor
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 0:05:34
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:05:35
Lockwood, also direct workforce, thank you. Is there any more declarations that when you smoke
no, thank you best great to promote those.

3 Minutes

OK, moving on to Item 3, the minutes of the meeting held on the 3rd of April, do we have any comments or are we happy for each Simons?
agreed.

4 Chair's Communications

Cllr Anita Jones - 0:06:18
okay, moving onto item for CHAIR's communications, firstly, I'd like to say it's all lovely to see you again, it's been a bit of a break since our last full Council meeting, the last couple of months have been very busy, I have supported a number of events around the district
these have included some key memorial days we had DJ plimsoll day, armed forces Day Canada Day and the blessing of the new high peace monument
in support of heritage and creativity and the district, I have attended events by the effects and Symphony Orchestra the focus in life festival charivari, the unveiling of The Hive Bandstand mosaics, a lead effects on women's forum, walk from the highest civic society, walks guide and attended the unveiling of the Heritage award at the harbour on railway station.
in support of our local community, I attended the induction of new, creased Reverend Carol in Neelam valley, I went to the Nepalese community meeting, celebrated volunteers at the District Council awards night spoke to the Folkestone School for girls, algal says Association.
I celebrated our Council support for the armed forces at Dover Castle and attended town Sunday in Folkestone, followed by the blessing of the Fisheries. We have some amazing events, creativity, Heritage and people in our district and I am grateful to have the opportunity to be part of them. I think given a social media feed share, so please feel free to have a look if you are interested
thank you to everyone who bought a donation for the Rainbow Centre this evening I attended their AG them last week and found their mission for our district truly inspiring, it's sometimes the small things that we contribute, which make the biggest differences to people's lives.
thank you to the councillors, who responded to my tree planting challenge for autumn. I'm looking forward to planting the whips when they arrive. In November, December time in September, I will be holding a District Civic evensong in St Leonards Church HIV, to celebrate the work of the Rainbow Centre and to raise both awareness and money for them. The service will also focus on the work we do in the district. I hope you will be able to join us. Lastly, I would just like to say thank you to my husband at its our 20th wedding anniversary. Today,
and I'm not having dinner with him, I'm here.

5 Petitions

6 Questions from the Public

7 Questions from Councillors

okay, moving and so on to item 5 petitions, there are no petitions that if seedlings, so we will move on to Item 6, which again this public questions, and we have no members of the public asking questions this evening so, moving on to item 7 we have Councillor questions, we have 13 questions from members which has set out,
so Members are invited to read their question and then the appropriate Cabinet Member to answer the question has the opportunity to ask a relevant supplementary question, please note that this should not be a statement and this should be a question, so start with a question from Councillor Walker to Councillor Jim Martin.
Cllr Belinda Walker - 0:09:31
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Cllr Paul Thomas - 0:09:35
that's lovely thank you Chair, and thank you, Councillor Martin, for this quest rocks in this question of Council Holgate and congratulations to him on his new baby boomers, daughter anyway, question Sexton has been receiving much positive media attention lately much of it to do with vibrant music scene locally.
it was timely that the culture, media and sports committee shows the publish their report on grassroots music venues on the 11th of May this year, it highlights the problems that these are facing.
sorry, it highlights the problems that are facing GMC's Agate and acknowledges that many benefits the smaller venues provide, not least the showcasing of new creative talent and bringing money into the wider local economy, as evidenced recently during slopes and hugely successful music in May festival I have add subsequent festival since,
the report offers some suggestions on health in GIMB surviving side and some of these are directed at local authorities, can you tell me what steps this Council is taking to support our local grassroots music thing is, thank you.
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:10:49
Councillor Martin, thank you very much, Councillor Walker, for your excellent question.
and are agreed the the Folkestone has a lot of musical talent and recognise the importance are or the important role the grassroots music venues, cli within hobson's economy and indeed across our into our district this year, music, in my benefitted from a grant of 2000 pounds from our community budget.
I think that Councillors Butcher and Martin also supported the festival from their ward ground of budgets, we have welcome the success of the festival which builds upon the establishment of Folkestone as the world's first music town, we have been promoting the programme through our social media channel channels and amplifying their message will Council also currently supports Folkestone quarter house with an annual grant of 25,000 pounds and its programme includes many music events, it is also possible that members of both grant scheme
could Sakho grass music events at a local level?
further, our own or our work on tourism aims to bring more people into the district and encouraged them to stay longer and enjoy the fantastic diverse range of music, culture and heritage attractions on offer, this will benefit many cases within the district, including many grassroots music venues, thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:12:31
thank you and Councillor Walker, have you a supplementary question?
Cllr Paul Thomas - 0:12:37
some of the questions or request, if any of the local, then he's wanted to get in touch with Council, will get a real sense that they be welcome to do that, to raise any particular questions directly, Councillor Martin extremely welcome, very, very happy to visit,
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:12:50
discuss very, very happy to in government.
thank you and and then we'll move on to question 2 from Councillor
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:12:57
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:13:01
Cooper, to Councillor Jim Martin frankly Chair, and can therefore and Councillor mountain plunge in respect of the Councillor Holgate Greenaway, my question is this, it's good news should pay Dr resources seawater. Quality testing is greatly improved, especially from the St Louis-based, however, it should not be forgotten. There has been no significant rainfall releases of stronger in Armando any reported water runoff from the fields recently
despite the motion passed by this Council in October 123 to publish like seawater quality information at the beachside and are clearly going to be potentially unreliable to publish that information duties undertakings, Ronald lousy Walter and the location of the testing, would you meet with me and other interested parties will in addition to read summit this issue and come up with a satisfactory alternative in order to send out the message that district this district in a good place to live, work and visit,
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:13:55
Councillor Martin, thank you very much Chair.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:13:56
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:14:00
when you've drawn the short straw here, because obviously it's a specialist subject for many, so this is a brick a bit longer than Councillor, how guy probably would have answered in perfect, thank you very much for your question, Councillor Clinton, you know how important this is turning officers are exploring how the Council motion from last year to provide a lot of information about finding water quality could be implemented and we will report back to Cabinet shortly. There are several practical barriers, one being as you highlight the time lag between the sample and the test result.
we currently have the Environment Agency test results which you refer to, we also have Southern Water are testing regularly, however they do not always publish their results interestingly, New Romney Town Council are carrying out there and testing they send their water quality results to the van both clubs are and all our the New Romney caravan park Romney, Sands holiday park I just about everybody.
and but also to the Environment Agency, Southern Water and ourselves, they post their results.
and the Environment Agency results on their Facebook page and website every week.
they have also just posted politest results from the information, with the information from Southern Water, showing the results in little stone orexin, which is quite names, are really when the launched about that.
no roaming Town Council also send the information to the clock at St Mary's by, interestingly, at the last workshop I attended with Southern Water are saying, spend my life in workshops in Southern Water dry, introduced the idea of citizen testing, I think.
this is, however, another example of no Romney council and Romney Marsh leading the way for us all just to remind everyone the issue of building water quality, along with other water related issues, is being considered by the Overview and Scrutiny Committee on the 24th of September when Southern Water internal drainage board any Environment Agency have all been in Gotti to sprint.
this will be a good place to renew what further actions can be taken, however, I know you have a long-standing interest in essential as if they don't have, and I will be very happy to continue to work with us and all other interested parties.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:16:50
Councillor Curley said you have a supplementary related question.
magistrates language for that very helpful.
explanation.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:16:57
I've read today we didn't change cities and they are concerned about results in in church, and I was wondering if we could put some additional pressure on Environment Agency because it does CQC being Aboriginal leader, insisted, should we get, would be appreciated,
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:17:15
thank you, Councillor Martin yeah, I are greedy, the likes to results
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:17:19
from pine church are disappointing but,
what we have to take this in the round, or your sorry, our obesity, the ranch round.
several months is a pumping station at Ryan drug and you know, I think, the the the the unchecked core unqualified amongst this,
I have held a suspicion, the the that is a possible source of the in colour on to Church pitch.
although that has been refuted by Southern Water over and over again, I did we pick that question syndrome and I did promise to come back to me with a technical explanation of why that can't happen, so I'll bow as soon as I carry, I'll let new having I'm very very happy to work and put as much question on anyone that we can to resolve this longstanding issue.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:18:19
thank you and question 3 from Councillor Cooper to Councillor Gary thriller.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:18:23
image, helpful Chair, can I refer Councillor move forward, she was scheduled to question 3, otherwise people will use sit inside the will of my voice tonight, thank you.
thank you Chair.
Cllr Gary Fuller - 0:18:35
thanks for your question, Councillor Cooper, as an elected member web developer student of IT and tech addict, I share your concerns that part as a verb districts, are unable to access broadband or mobile connections of quality capacity and speeds that meet the needs of residents, businesses and visitors.
sadly, this is an issue that's actually responsibility of government, of their council building digital UK is a government body responsible for bringing fast and reliable broadband and mobile coverage to how hard to reach places across the UK.
they are leading the rollout of gigabit capable broadband and expansion of 4G mobile coverage in rural areas.
with an aim to ensure that people can access fast and reliable digital connectivity that can transform their lives.
I'd be happy to write to the Chair of the UK seeking assurances that it has plans to invest in broadband on the Marsh and other areas of our district, where where the quality is digital, connectivity needs to be improved, for example Saintbury if anyone's got 19 my bosom,
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:19:50
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:19:52
Councillor Cooper related to question. Thank you for that, Councillor Fuller, I was just wondering, if you are going to be enough to people, can also put some pressure on the people who have actually got the contract because they do. The previous government recently won the additional money for investments in broadband in this area, I think it would chase her up and report back to the Romney Marsh partnership that would be appreciated, thank you are more than happy to do that.
Cllr Gary Fuller - 0:20:15
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:20:17
thank you and moving on to question for another question from Councillor Cooper.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:20:24
the chancellor Jim Matheson, thanking the this is wanted to you, Councillor Martin, as Leeds in Council, basically to this residential Deputy God, isn't even modern, didn't church advise me, they are worried about what for littering of their properties in house, it appears to them that no action has seemingly been shaken, she will leave yet there are well founded concerns move following the devastating floods which recently took place. Could you please give us an update on the Council's action to date? Ebony?
an amendment for what does the Council insensitive about the apparent lack of action in support versions, so they're not for 2021.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:21:01
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:21:05
Councillor Malcolm, thank you Chair another specialist topic for me, Councillor Glover, certainly so thank you very much for your your question for those of us who do not recall the incident flooding Beverley gardens in Robin.
in church. This could, when Surrey system was overwhelmed with Walter, causing it Flood last last winter, as you know, I've met with the residents Southern Water, the Environment Agency, any internal joinery full to try and understand what caused the flood after much investigation helped very much by the photographic evidence of the Pinchot Parish Councillors, the following became clear. We had two weeks of prolonged and very heading grind. The ditch at the rear of 70 Gardens has a crossing point into the adjoining caravan park beneath this crossing point is a Calvin, essentially a quite cholera bridge across a big void to get the cover we can plot
and ditch could not drunk sorry, Walter, though up apparently in an attempt to prevent the caravan park flooding, someone began pumping the water from the teach into the sewerage system, causing it to be a overwhelmed, hence the club.
although, as I initially deniable, the internal drainage board now concede that I should have done more to keep the pitch and cover clear, my understanding is the cover is now completely clear.
they tell me they are exploring a long term solution to open the other end of the pitch, to allow water to flow in both directions, so the problem, even if the COVID blocks again shouldn't actually occurred because there will be a runoff in the other direction.
flooding is very distressing for the residents affected and I understand that most of the repair work has now been completed, the incident, however, I think, is a salutary reminder of how fragile the drainage system on the Marsh is the joining system, which is managed by a combination of the internal drainage board Kent County Council, the Environment Agency, Southern Water ourselves,
and private land owners who had riparian rights and obligations was designed a thousand years ago, and it requires some serious attention I understand from Councillor Hills wearing his crisis St.
that he has compiled a report which intends to present to the Environment Agency to support a bid to have a detailed technical report produced on the drainage of the Marsh and its impact, and I'm sorry, ending impact of climate change and excuse me.
and are very much support that bid
so thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:24:08
thank you, and do you have a supplementary related question I do just
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:24:12
for anybody wants to go on to Councillor Martin, would it be ensured, possibly for the copy of report from Councillor roles, to be circulated shooting Church Parish, Council, and there are direct development scenario the controversy concerning if that would be appreciated, thank you.
Councillor Martin,
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:24:28
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:24:28
well, it's a, it's a KCC combination report as it were, I think, it's still in draft, it's not a both Councillor Hills might be able to elaborate on it, but certainly I don't think there's anything in there that is confidential but sorry probably in June because maybe if the Chair allows Councillor Hills good quality clarify for us.
but you know.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:25:00
if it's drapery, I'll be very briefly at yes, everybody can have a
Councillor Tony Hills - 0:25:04
copy of report, it's gone through my flat Committee account, or we just go, is now in the public domain and it's going wringing its wage was regional council.
thank you, thank you, Councillor, those OK, so we'll move on to
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:25:19
question 5, another question from Councillor Cooper to Councillor Gary pillar.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:25:26
thank you, Chair can induce referred to scheduled to question 5, and those watching the broadcaster to broadcast this is a garden digital exclusion and availability of Wi-Fi in the public gallery, which is a Council function.
Cllr Gary Fuller - 0:25:41
thank you, Councillor Cooper, so the the problem with public Wi-Fi is there is a tremendous number of risks that go along with all of these contact centres, so it may appear on the surface to be a valuable service to provide but it could put our customers at risk so one of the most common threats to these kind of networks something called a man in the middle attack and is essentially what happens is it's a form of eavesdropping so,
yeah computer re connects to the internet, data sent from it to point a website, as it were, our service, and what the attacker does is effectively sits in the middle one, pretend to be that service symptoms, still your data and so on yeah read the transmissions so you end up with a situation where we're customer thought was private turns out not to be properly.
alongside that, on the flip side of things, if you if you open our network to devices that we don't control.
and that can access things like e-mail and other services, we can't guarantee that the what's on those devices wouldn't be a danger to our.
there are devices in the customer access point, as it were, for customers to use for online interactions.
and currently having spoken to the idea of them a reasonable plan to introduce public Wi-Fi, but it is something that I'm going to discuss further with the team and see if we can come up with a viable option that is both secure and obviously affordable, because there are options you can do if you for money.
there's only so much scope to garage.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:27:25
thank you and you have a supplementary related question, thank you Chair.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:27:28
thank you with the answer to Councillor Fuller and I look after the internet's in St Marys Babel at all, and we have got public point 5 the unless there's no issues at all on that, but I'm just wondering about you suspect he belongs to the, could you go back ASAP and ask them to review that, because if anyone was going to do were hotspots', certainly he described delicacy be certainly reception shortly, and if you could have a look at that because anywhere else it would normally
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:27:54
Cllr Gary Fuller - 0:27:54
happen that way. Thank you, Councillor, Fuller yeah, just in terms of attacks, it depends on Orange and a lifeline, as he would meet the Simon reception and, to be honest, those kind of attacks there cannot deny that difficult marriage by the service, as it were, to to actually carry out all the time
in terms of public Wi-Fi. Yes, there are examples where there are common problems, but you if you went to pretty much any experienced life, IT, your network professional, they would tell you never ever use public Wi-Fi, you cannot trust, I have already not apply that said, yes, I absolutely will, I'm gonna, go back to the team in any way of saying and discuss it with them because there may be
we're at ways we can work around it as well,
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:28:41
thank you and moving on to question 6 from councillor Cooper to Councillor Jim Martin.
thank you, Councillor Martin, can only pledge is scheduled sheen
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:28:51
question 6, I'm not, they will original question to Councillor, albeit I'm hoping continuing to open them again in mid-August, this patch.
Councillor Martin, thank you very much, Councillor Cooper the year,
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:29:05
the questions or concerns provision the tourist office, and what are we doing in terms of promoting Romney, Marsh?
so across the country are we saying tourist officers are disappearing, subject to cuts?
over the years as local government,
funding has suffered and
I, the services being completely underfunded, to guide, we have a significant focus around dramatically improving our online presence to showcase this incredible districts and all of these offerings in the past few years there have been a confusing plethora of our place, brands and websites about this district work has already begun. Consolidating some agrees into a single, simple source of information and I look forward to sharing back with this Chamber, updates on those efforts in due course where capacity allows. We are also exploring, perhaps to create more non digital media such as maps and guides the distribution to ensure accessibility for everyone and a continued efforts to educate visitors on everything and everywhere in the district. Specifically for the Romney Marsh, we had a course are fantastic for visitor centre and we continue to have multiple conversations on how we can secure and develop the business Centre and for the future. Once the Kent Wildlife Trust came back to our lives, we can continue to include one from which we can promote the Marsh and instead of if it is unlikely to take this opportunity to strengthen the Council's position, there is no done deal here. We welcome all ideas, suggestions and proposals
for the next stage of the visitors' senses development, we actively encourage anyone who feels they have the right vision, concept or strategy to run a flourishing visitor centre. Please contact me. We are very keen on local solutions provided for local people will want very much to encourage local partnerships. I want to see the visitor centre open as soon as possible and bustling with cocoa. Thank you very much. Thank you, and do have a related supplementary question.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:31:53
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:31:54
thank you, Councillor Martin, I will probably be Councillor Holgate gets back and we'll move this forward, thank you very much, OK, so, moving on to question 7 from Councillor Cooper to Councillor Jim Martin again.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:32:05
apologies.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:32:09
to Councillor Martin, in your capacity as a Cabinet Member for the Planning Policy, et cetera, Councillor Martin, could you please advances what's happening with performance and local developments in
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:32:23
St Marys Way, please, Councillor Martin, thank you Chair, yes, good
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:32:26
work, you'll be delighted to know that this answer come directly from Head of Planning so it can be brought
so I thank you for your question, Councillor Cooper, the site has been purchased by GCC capital limited who are building out the consented scheme bracket of boy 0 7 oblique 1 5 6 6 s hike coach Pako, this includes repairs and putting right the damage caused while the site was left unattended after the previous owner went into administration the site was being built to the relevant building regulations we as the local planning authority are working with the new Aamer's to progress standard planning matters such as a non material minor amendments that relate to some house types and some challenging in the cladding materials.
all the things will be subject to the normal planning processes, I am aware that this site has being the cause of significant concern for all local residents, and this is model, not the Head of Planning, I have to say that personally I'm not a fan of the design that's me that's not the head of time but I genuinely hope
that the new owners will might speaking progress in completing your development, because empty dilapidated buildings do not help anything.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:33:59
Thank you, thank you, and do have a related supplementary question.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:34:02
thank you Chair, thank you, Chair, Councillor Martin, I will certainly be could use your influence as the Lead Member on Planning educate, often we will look at that shrank, the reason being basically the St Mary in the Marsh Parish Council.
secretariat's day there would you expect me to have an update in due course which would not have, and also understanding has been, issues regarding their land ownership on the site, and we also understand 275 local presence, awesome submitted a petition to the Council which are presumably the between enforcement if someone is so if that could be pursued, Rebecca would be appreciated.
Councillor Martin
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:34:35
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:34:36
I am very happy to write to
RGC Capital Ltd and suggest the meeting and yeah, I just really to see if we can flusher and somebody's problems, some of them undoubtedly, will have simple answers and some will be very complex answers, but I'm very, very happy to try and open a channel of communication.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:35:01
thank you and moving on to question 8, we have accounts a question from Councillor Cooper to Councillor Colin Blakemore.
Cllr Tony Cooper - 0:35:12
fungi Councillor break HMO residential Indian church raised issues about dangerous parking on the junction of Greenfield Avenue and intrusion on the 18 5 9 could appropriate traffic regulation order, please be made, since George Alliance seemed to try and alleviate
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:35:28
this, thank you, Councillor Blackmore, thank you Chair and.
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 0:35:30
all hospital parking waiting restrictions on the four or five on waiting restrictions are applied, controlled parking zones, on the for landlords for compliance Council, for your request, forget Alliance, has been passed to then consider it would also be a good idea for residents, following this up by e-mailing East, stop highway improvements, that punk-pop I've got mutual about all other landlords, and I will make sure that that song. Thank you can do have a related supplementary question. Yes, thank you. Very much could be raised in exchange Joint Transport Board. Please
we will get no result from KCC presumed from KCC is also to break protocol them to go through in a bit announced and the nuts basically can we just stick to the western plains, are we going to yeah after I can certainly say thank you, I think which is,
OK question 9 from councillor Coopers', Councillor Jeremy Speakman, thank you Chair, you'd be happy to know, this is my last question.
Councillor Speakman, this question is in relation to the issue in street, sweeping et cetera, and please let me assure you, it is no reflection on the work of our staff on reflection on the health secretary Alan thank you.
yes, thank you category grieving, I'll have a capital of your last question.
as always, I'm also very happy to raise any three tree planting
Cllr Jeremy Speakman - 0:37:07
concerned or the left to get on to that as soon as possible, I am aware that we pray, which is the responsibility York hesitancy highway it was not fully completed since barriers, I believe that officers have worked with you get this completed together with can be effectively removed, obviously there's any outstanding matters re your streets that you would like to raise after this meeting. I will ensure that they are policy escalated by the adverse reaction
Councillor Cooper D, who are supplemented link question I will quote the speech you often thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:37:41
OK, meeting, sorry.
moving on to question 10, we have a question from Councillor keen to Councillor Holly Blakemore.
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:37:55
and technical Blakemore.
what was the overall cost of the think the Exec consultation Cheriton, including officer time?
Councillor Blackmore, thank you Chair, and thank you for the question,
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 0:38:08
Councillor Caine.
I'm afraid I am unable to the call simply because parking consultation exercises are not interception deposited and charged or officer time recorded and allocated to this level of detail. I can't, however, make some more general points. Firstly, consulting on changes like the introduction of the CCC said was vital to ensure that residents have an opportunity to offer their views. Request for the introduction of CPC said almost always come from residents. Initially, it is often difficult to gauge opinion in advance before consultation is carried out and the alternative of simply proceeding on the assumption that, as proposal has wide support, would of course be unfair.
secondly, the transportation team have fought and efficiencies through the consultation process for CQC said this consultation was completed mainly online, whereas previous consultations were exclusively paper-based, which possibly pre-paid envelopes included in each consultation pack.
this has also greatly reduced officer time, insulating responses, we still recorded paper responses, of course of the season finale, I would point out that Councillor Sheard Councillor Mike late more, and I personally leafleted every home in the proposed area, visited a majority of businesses on the High Street and Hardwick mincing or paid for by the Green party not the Council.
thank you, do you have a supplementary now we have concluded not until.
my my sorry onto a question and answer the next question there, my
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:39:43
Christians aren't quite federal OK, so another question from land, she has a keen to current Councillor Colin Blakemore thank Councillor Blake, more last year the striker policy was to be rewritten.
and copied onto our website, the last family have this from April 2022.
could we please have an update on the Policing and when it will be implemented, Councillor Blake rule again, thank you for the question.
I'm always surprised by the number of stray abandon the lost dogs at a
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 0:40:14
retreat by the Council, the circumstances can vary from Adult going missing due to a momentary lapse in concentration by the owner to, sadly, dogs that have been deliberately abandoned often of evidence from the greats we understand that for most owners the loss of their dog was an emotional experience, although sadly is that's not the case for.
the straight our policy needs to consider the law, the council's statutory duties and the protection of the animal in terms of a policy review the straight-up policy, because it is largely based on the procedures as set out in the Environmental Protection Act 1990 remains current and does not require a full review at this time.
the Environmental Protection team does with means the practical application of the policy as and when incidents occur. I know that last year Councillor Canning raised concerns about how and when dogs are returned to owners out-of-hours. The team have looked at this and what the policy states the policy already gives officers on duty at the level of discretion about returning dogs out-of-hours. I hope you will understand that setting out what to do in every scenario is difficult and in practice would need to be considered against other operational or emergency response demands on the out-of-hours team on the day in question. The Environmental Protection Manager has also check the boarding kennels and found them to be fit for purpose.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:41:32
thank you. Do you have a supplementary will latest Christian
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:41:35
yesterday, actually the case, I don't think a one-size-fits-all, and you can't state in our policy that dogs will be returned if it's not gonna being sorry, do you have a question 3 yam saying the question, why are we saying that they will be returned in our policy when that is not the case? Monday to Sunday there should be returned to their owners between 9 am and 4 pm and that is not the case. Why?
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 0:42:06
you're right, it's not a one size fits all, and there does have to be an element of discretion, and there has to be that element of discretion on the day, and that does depend, as I said in an earlier answer on what House is happening across our district on the day.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:42:22
thank you so question 12
from Councillor keen to Councillor Shupe, who, in her absence, this question is to be directed to the Leader of the Council, Councillor
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:42:37
Jim Martin, thank you, Councillor Martin, as a council, what steps we're going to take their with the ever-increasing rental properties that are being taken out of the rental market making to Air BnB, Councillor Martin,
thank you very much for your question, I wasn't my intention to answer
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:42:56
most of the questions this evening, it's just that.
Councillor Nash, surely these will and Councillor Holgate is an attorney,
this is a really really important question and
it sings us on something at the home, to the Dalai Lama.
because on one hand
we want to encourage tourism, but on the other hand we want to protect the rental properties in district, we have a very, very, very, very good relationship with the private sector in this in this Council and and that investment culturally has has been a huge benefit to us.
if you look at in comparative figures with regard to temporary accommodation costs, we
do very, very well, other councils are our Paris, perilously close to bankruptcy because of their or temporary accommodation costs, and we're not in that been so, so they did O'Connor the homeseeker dilemma that we're on.
the powers available to the Council to restrict the provision of at BNP property use are limited, I understand the previous government were considering potential planning legislation to restrict the use of copy stories Curtis, but it was not progressed.
having said that, the Council will continue to monitor the impacts at this type of accommodation on the district and on our residents', thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:44:46
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:44:47
and do you have a related supplementary question,
could I ask the Council, therefore, the where our residents are getting section 21, the properties I've had four in my ward bespoke, where paper objecting section 21, some being told by the 18 that the houses are being converted into a B&B, is one understand where a young family are being evicted, two children ample and their parents because he's making it into an B and bake weaning there's a coastal towns, have enough rental properties for our residents and I'm asking the Council would save learning that we bring this as a priority.
that we stop the amount of air Bingham base, it is taken housing away from our residents from Aston, if we do that as a Council, we are the Taksim full-stop there. Councillor Martin yeah, or I don't disagree
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:45:40
with anything you say Councillor Caine, and it isn't. It is critically important issue for us but
we are limited by legislation in terms of what we can stop overcome stop, but I'm very, very happy, I'm very happy to engage on this specific topic with, as many are Councillors who wish to enlarge out of when, when she returns she to work, I will discuss with Councillor surely and we'll see if we can set something up.
just to get some advice with regard to exactly precisely what we can do and what we can't do, because sculpt is is fairly limited, as I understand it, thank you, thank you are moving on to our final
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:46:34
question of the evening from Councillor keen to Councillor Polly
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:46:37
Bleckner, sorry Councillor Blake, Martha
on beaches in East Kent abuser band due to the risk to other beachcombers reserving forced by coastal enforcement officers. We are a coastal districts and we need a similar service that Sox's dangerous back to say. What steps can we take to deal with the ever-increasing issue methodically is on the bench, Councillor Blackmore, thank you, Chair, and thank you because anyone for because I know that this is an issue about you grateful for and am not unsympathetic to the point
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 0:47:12
that you made. I am aware that some other coastal referrals have from balconies or types of on issues such as more disposable count. I'm not sure how rigorously enforce these plans are in practice and we are right to identify, but it would require a separate postal enforcement team. Enforcing a ban effectively on morale coastline at the height of summer would need a significant increase in staffing and budgets, and I think we would still, in practice, struggle to implement in terms of the legal process enacting a general ban on barbecues would need an amendment to the existing public space Protection order, or, more likely, a new stand-alone PSG. All this is not an overnight process legally would need to be able to justify a ban in line with the anti-social behaviour. Crime and Policing Act. 2014 and 2 are properly public consultation process
many would argue that a general ban unfairly criminalising families and groups that are responsible.
an alternative would be a partial ban in certain locations but, as we know from our experience of the postal part, the son, often only the space bar, the teams to other beaches and perhaps intensified problems in another area, even a partial ban would of course require additional
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:48:30
resources to implement, thank you and do you have a supplementary and our contribution OK, thank you.
Cllr Nicola Keen - 0:48:33
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:48:33
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:48:37
OK, so, moving on to Item 8 and our agenda, we had the announcements of the Leader of the Council, we have 10 minutes allowed for the Leader Jim Martin.
Cllr Jim Martin - 0:48:51
thank you very much gesture of plots getting in some minutes, the so good evening, everyone and.

8 Announcements of the Leader of the Council

I must say how how physically fit we're all looking is probably all the leafletting that we, the that we have we've been engaged with.
I would like to begin my announcements, we've won a great joy, Councillor rich Hoggy, and his wife had a second baby on the 7th of July, and I am certain that all Members will join me in saying, congratulations to the Hogarth family and welcome to the world learning how Guy,
congratulations, we certainly need to learning.
many congratulations to our two new and things Tony bone and Sir John Chelsea are already met with both.
to begin briefing them on the operations of the Council, I would also like to state my grateful, thanks to our outgoing entering Damian Collins for 14 years of service to function in the high.
I am delighted to know that the rich Bridge holiday bus service has been launched in closing at our friends at crossing the services through the subsidy to provide with precarity comes from our other thing at courtesy, I small recompense for the Road of Remembrance being encouraged to for so long.
I had my terribly dreary maintains wig stage coach but I also attended a meeting of the Joint Transport Board, I have been in regular contact with Southern Water and held meetings with them online and in person, including one at the heart treatment works and won at their head offices in wording at East meetings principally concerned as sewage spills in the same the quality of our plaguing Malta, but I also discussed the problems that CoppaFeel described in leaked the flooding rather than Beverley gardens and didn't church and impact the use of tankers during the winter, moving sewage from Newington and things to rank driving high. I further meetings with Southern Water, the Environment Agency,
on KCC Council's grant, but without massive financial investment into their ailing infrastructure, I see little hope for significant improvement.
I also.
attended internal meetings to discuss flooding on the mouth. I've been interviewed frequently about a BBC regarding the pitches at St Mary's by Littlestone and in church I attended a very large meeting of concerned residents at the Chichester, holding it in Sandgate, organised or within church diplomacy. I'm absolutely delighted to report that green flags have been awarded Paul retina Park, the Royal Military Canal and, to the very first time a green Clague. A good pedigree in high growth got into hot green preservation society, a big thank you to grand maintenance things that one in the bigger thanks to our volunteer group who continue
to contribute their time and their efforts to make our district such a beautiful place, the leaders of the full political groups and independent councillor, Paul Thomas, had been meeting regularly as we move towards a Committee system, I, Member briefing will be held on the 28th of August in order to give members a full update on our progress so far.
I had been cheering the committee considering applications for growing business Grant, along with officers, cabinet members, the Cabinet Member for gonna, environment and biodiversity, together with ward councillors, I've been very impressed with the range and diversity of applications these will have a significant impact on the reduction of carbon produced by vacancies.
in addition.
I have also been cheering the Committee.
considering applications under the rural prosperity fund, along with officers and ward councillors again, I have been delighted with the range and diversity of the proposals we are. A rural districts and prosperity in rural areas must be supported where possible.
I am pleased to announce that work is well underway with regard to our new Corporate Plan and following Cabinet approval last week we will shortly, we will be shortly launching a consultation to the public, there has been significant input from all parties represented in this Chamber and I am grateful to members for their ideas, suggestions and advice on how everyone in the district will participate in the consultation.
had attended many meetings regarding a hospital park with government agencies, developers, consultants and incomes, these discussions are have been very positive and will continue, I also chaired the interview panel to appoint Paul Hurst as the new Chair of article cloud all all pay.
I was delighted to attend a meeting of coastal joint initiative with our neighbours across the Channel in billowing the council's in below and are very cool up in preparation for the Olympics and preparing their town for a stage in next year's Tour de France. I attended a meeting at newly for an update on the government's new nuclear programme. I was very honoured to attend the 10th annual armed forces covenant conference at Brompton barracks as our districts armed forces Champion and are also attended the shortlist Shorncliffe Didi ceremony, as well as armed forces, dies in high and Folkestone together with the flag raising ceremony at the Civic Centre while these businesses in the district as usual, including developers, artists, healthcare providers, hotels, hospitality and holiday extras.
business has some very interesting perspectives on the future of the district, and this Council is a friend to group weaknesses.
I have attended meetings to discuss in focused in town centre activation projects update on Princess Bride holding. I am delighted to announce that the hoping surrounding critics' pride have been dismantled and are now being repurposed. Protecting our buildings or article park at the site has been fenced and were and the consultation will happen later this year, along with many other district. The coastal district councils are continue to attend monthly meeting organised by the government agency to collect to collectively express a shared concerns about Southern morton's consistent failure to meet the needs of their customers. I have attended they can leaders Forum meetings to discuss the issues which affect the Council's in Kent. I have also attended meetings at the East Kent leaders Forum, which is a more focused view on issues affecting the East Kent Districts to die, in fact, along with leaders of on district councils and both Unitaries or attended a meeting God, the district council's offices are to discuss and highlight the risks associated with the introduction of the European entry system and its impact on 10 particularly Dover and Folkestone. We agreed I set a joint concerns and have sent these to the government in questioning and media action, upheld meetings with local charities and agencies, including in Kent recovery house in Folkestone, dementia, awareness in high folks in parks and pleasure grounds, local business groups and local community groups. I attended the Kent and Medway employment Task Force meetings. I also attended a Marsh network breakfast. I was very pleased to be invited to the launch of music in mind for themselves them. Music town issues, programme of events and workshops is larger than other and covers all Marshall Johnners of music. From rock to classical,
from coral, surpassing as part of jam on the Marsh, I attended St Leonard's church in Hyde Trippier in Folkestone, choral societies, rendition of higher workers, wedding banquet, I am working with a group of artists who are designing a sculpture for the next tri-annual called Sue due to say,
all right, I also attended they absolutely fantastic art exhibition at turn a school.
finally, you'll be glad to know I successfully completed the Folkestone 10 QI in glorious sunshine, thank you Chair.
Cllr Anita Jones - 0:58:21
thank you, it had a really busy complements it's really interesting to hear what you've been up to, and now we have five minutes for the opposition response, so Councillor Lockwood.
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 0:58:30
thank you Chair, and thank you.
very busy schedule like during.
you're on congratulations and others.
Hope examining you are learning we.
for the first.
thank you Chair need for.
meeting with affluent people more about that later, full-stop opposition business, so I'll Lucy MPs.
for now, but in a lot tonight about water quality to some of the questions, I think in your last appointments, with three or four times with weight-bearing, encourages group that our new MP terms one is a massive champion for water quality in this region and challenges as we speak doing battle for us.
Northern Ireland, to try and sort this long-standing issue out.
want, on behalf of the people, of both the advice.
was privileged to be part of the QC's working group and the corporate Plan working Group notes that we work across.
Tarsem Singh's or on those projects in India, and it's nice that when we see things in that they are recognised and taken on board, good example is, from the last Corporate Plan was produced, the consultation there was, there was a costly
closest sending out letters, a fraction of that cost is being spent, targeted saw Nottingham for the for the most vulnerable people, and particularly across the Marsh, who we very rarely will probably not express very welcome, thank you very much for that.
there will continue to work on that and look forward to that phase, one letter on 80 system coming forward from from the 28th of August.
thank you to of our teams and welcome to qualify.
since, as did the seemingly and very welcoming last Friday and I, I am start, this delegation 15 43 MPs, that's very informative.
good has fallen into the hoardings in recycles from around around the site and not not get or UK sovereignty landfill, that's that's get yourself.
Anthony's next-day, with the Kent leaders.
with respect to the year, it was 21 across the system, we had a meeting with some weeks ago, but that a briefing for all councillors and
I mean that was
shall we say, enlightening, to say the least,
at some point later this year, when that comes in.
we need every possible penalties in the flank direct, encouraging that your
we're working on that, so thank you for that, medicine, a whole myriad of other things we, as approved, support festivals, we support grateful because we are looking forward to see Susan missing cultures and and everything else.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:02:04
so I'll leave of thank you, thank you and time by Councillor Mrs having speak to give her.
Cllr Jennifer Hollingsbee - 1:02:11
five minutes please, thank you, thank you Chair and thank you, Councillor Martin, for your very comprehensive report and done and in fact I had a job to send me to keep up with what you were you were saying. I add I too would like to congratulate Holgate in which all date on his son new baby. It seems a long time since I was in that position said. I wish him well
aunties I would just like to put on record our thanks to going on Collins for the service to this area over the last 14 years.
I would also like to welcome you to new employees, I did write to them wishing them luck with their position, but I haven't yet had a response from them.
I welcome, I welcome the Bat Survey starting between something West and and Norwich, that's really good service and I hope it will be utilised, are welcome the green flags and particularly Avenue, yes, we are high 3, so that's that's a wonderful committee system.
well, I think you're putting much aware of Marcel Williams on the committee system, I certainly things that individuals working work on behalf of my group.
like I do with the court time, where you can't seem to get some destinations, but I'm sure going out to consultation.
that might come up and standing as Rosie mentioned are welcome the grant, because the businesses and to the will the prosperity Fund
I grew up, I'm glad that the arrangement was Oscar is continuing, I think that's really important.
I welcome your visit dismissed and.
well done on attended several meetings instead of so many of them, thank you very much for your report.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:04:13
thank you and Councillor Jim Martin, you have five minutes and the right of reply.
as well as all as I've had a great grateful thanks, I accept that, but
Cllr Jim Martin - 1:04:25
I think the the the the fact that we are all singing from the same sanction, I think really does seller are and it will come as a surprise to no one more long-held views is is we can all work together.
4 for the benefit of other community, and you know, I see examples of that around this Chamber all the time I not just would extol everyone to to continue in that vein, and we will, we will, I become the challenges that prices together,

9 Portfolio Holder reports to Council

thank you, that's really positive, pretty pleased to hear that and
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:05:05
we're going to move on to Item 9, which is a portfolio reports, Andrea asked us to note those, so I hope you've all had a chance to read them or do we need to,
sorry.
needed a proposer and a seconder and then to agree via affirmation, so can we have a reserve, so going back to item 8 as a Councillor J Martin
a seconder Councillor Tim Prater, and we all agreed.

10 Opposition Business

thank you sorry, keen to move on, so the portfolio reports are in the pack and I'm hoping you'd have had a chance to read them, there's some really interesting detail, what I'll Cabinet Members have been up to and what their job entailed, so thank you very much to the portfolio orders for those reports, some really good detail in there and we'll move on to Item 10, which is opposition business, we have one item of opposition business from the Labour Group
so Councillor Lockwood is going to introduce the the business, and if you could indicate which option you would like to propose, thank you,
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 1:06:12
thank you Chair.
this relates to.
UN themes I'd like to start by.
that's really what Councillor Fullerton I worry about, the can you offer.
on the general election.
and so I'd like to take this opportunity to say outside the Council's Executive.
go smoothly election, not jobs, in agreeing the budgets in line with what for proportionate asked if this was as well, so thank you.
if I may just indulge.
s ceremony I'd like to just read the words from any prime minister Minister said at the press conference on the Downing Street E 6th of July.
the he said there's no monopoly on good ideas, he's not affordable.
politician and the prince for the operates to whether it's made or other elected representatives.
is that where regional leaders wants to deliver for their areas and regardless of the columns, their rosettes?
his door is open and the government will work with them, so that's an echo of Councillor Martin's comments for a couple of minutes ago.
this new government is to me to work with people ad, has been described by our prime Minister and and how this excuse me guys.
so that all we are proposing that this Council
formally works closely with our teams as its customers, previous entry taking on board the services pass comment about vengeance 14 years of service, he worked closely with saying anything like that to continue, he would like that to also be apparent in how.
those relationships are reported to the council sent by some 3 metres reports portfolio before.
and then that?
initiative, I agree, the funding streams and things have come forward from national government throughout 220.
are in a single property by the Council so following on from that, just just for example
we've had been Anthony.
apes' call surgeon and Primary complaints plates units well for this Council with respect to that for developments bearing Executive discussing it with the BBC reported that.
and, of course, the energy secretary is already that guided walks windfarm on upon Marsh.
there mentioned about four times cleaning on its knees, including nutrients interesting Rolls-Royce, put their first, the first ESA Mark design was submitted which needs to be on the 19th of July on Friday last week, that's one step in the direction which takes.
we still miles away from one of these things being ready or who, and who isn't going to see this for this area, but it was on the agenda and the energy for six was mentioned that thank you to the ward councillors for decades of North Down you've already reached out the things I would urge you to work with them on on issues in Yetzes parliamentary constituencies is essential.
what we would like to do, as a group is new to accept option B, which would involve us working proactively with Anthony's reporting back to us from the public on those last five, taking into consideration of schemes and projects and funding that comes forward nationally throughout contains.
the fear of all descriptions that Councillor framework and our existing budgets, Barbara, propose that force you, thank you, and do
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:10:43
we have somebody who would like to second that proposal?
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:10:50
Councillor, Liz mixing, and would you like to speak okay, so it is now and we need to Councillor needs.
Cllr Jackie Meade - 1:11:01
thank you Chair, I just like to impress upon everyone here that we need to work with new MPs, and we need to do this because a perfect example has just happened, Councillor Holland history will talk about wrongheadedness if we already had these meetings and this conduit of information coming through you'd be aware the only.
the MP, Tony Vaughan, has already stood up in the House of Commons and actually asked about Dungeness, A nuclear and trying to ask Ed Miliband to actually supporters, so this is why this is so important, so please vote it through for number day, thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:11:43
thank you, and I think it's Councillor Peter next in other tenures.
Cllr Tim Prater - 1:11:51
thank you, I very much welcome this motion and I very much welcome what happened on the morning of the 5th of July as well.
but I think that there is a small weakness in the motion, I have a small amendment to try and address that weakness.
Amy speaks to the words of Michael Dawkins begins as he started, our meetings speaks the words of Jim Martin Amgen hauling space and Adrian as well amounts to add some additional words between in the motion between this Council notes, and this Council believes because this Council notes that the where we have two new MP for the area,
Barton Mrs is to congratulate them, so I'm suggesting that we add the words this Council congratulates Tony Vaughan in so, John Joseph, on the historic election and also thanks Damian Collins, but his 14 years of service to Folkestone and Hythe because I think it is important to a say well done and be say thank you to those people involved. I'm hoping that that's not a radical or a radical amendment. That's going to be objected to by the mover of the motion could be accepted into the motion. I'm happy to move that amendment and I believe I have a second life
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:13:06
thank you is the proposer happy to accept the amendment.
they are having to et cetera.
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 1:13:12
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:13:12
and do and the seconder.
yes.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:13:18
thank you, so we're able to continue the debate, sorry, Councillor, Tony health.
thank you Chair, it's.
Councillor Tony Hills - 1:13:28
historic moment, I think.
Sally Hall, in the next month, and I wish him well, I will go off saying what he said in the House.
which was excellent.
I have seen a bit of video, there was on Facebook, which is also excellent, but unbeknown to him when he was at, which will show the court windfarm.
with Ed Miliband removing site cycle recruitment and we split up to go down the at tangible stake, our tried contacting me but had no results yeah, I know he's incredibly busy expendable, but I've been heavily involved with the dangerous and Kate and the Councillors Commission which is working on seems unfortunately they announced at least action had to commission because the problems I have explosion,
I recently made great great strides gamble either meeting today, discussing it further with a possible contender to build and natural England, and I would love to do capture information to attorney falls.
sorry, if anybody can get hold, tend to keep local and I'll be very friendly.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:14:41
thank you, Tony rednecks have Councillor David Godfrey.
thank you, thank you, Chair yeah, I'm delighted, felt mentioned of.
Cllr David Godfrey - 1:14:52
proactive and guides, and you have a 3% pay, and I was delighted to hear Councillor Martin says already engaged with the two new MPs, and I hope that will continue for a benefits, I'm a unique position to have a different than Pinto Councillor Hills because I've got myself and the African symptoms, so I have.
but not Tony for all of the project, however, I'm sure they're going to work very closely with us, and I'm delighted that some of the projects that will enable goodwill mentioned article part of things that we instigated in the previous administration. Although I am a bit surprised about us why we actually need to taking action to other than to note this because of the report, will you continue to do this without involving, because it will be for the council offices in the engagement process? I would have thought that the information would come to us anyway, but I wouldn't stand in the way that up until we just noted, thank you
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:15:46
thank you know, Councillor Mrs Jenny, Hawksbee.
Cllr Jennifer Hollingsbee - 1:15:50
thank you, thank you, Chair grow from what I've heard, it seems a bizarre, I will get damage unless in the corporate plan, so that will be a little bit of a a bonus for many years, I've been fighting for that factor for quite a long time.
yeah, my question I propose warnings have we continue hasn't been included in terms of resources it says within the budget, is it within budget, will it cost us, and what time you know you have to ask that question if you don't mind, what is there any costs involved, is there any resource required because, like Councillor Godfrey I just one is something that we do all the time
this is in addition to what will receive and, if so, is there a cost involved and is a resource involved in terms of officer time?
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:16:46
thank you, Councillor, Tony Peter, thank you Jay, can I just say this,
Cllr Tony Cooper - 1:16:49
this should be shareholding voting could change in the 4th of July, now the election finish with let's move forward, if there's any additional costs to this Council in respect of meeting new MPs are working with them bases actually come out of existing budgets.
because they are presume those existing budgets would have been here when the previous one previous in place, so there shouldn't be any material difference from their garden, that should be better if anything is going to be more further and better communication, and I just say the election is over and that's maybe probed and do what we'd vehicle and that's the representing clinical any interest will this district, thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:17:31
thank you, do we have anybody else who would like to is already spoken, so no, I'm sorry, sorry, we have to go with the roles.
so so so if we haven't got anybody else who would like to contribute to the debate, you'll go back to Councillor Lockwood, who can?
some up and we can take up of take a vote after that.
Cllr Tim Prater - 1:18:30
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 1:18:32
nothing to at no.
take points about as if she'd just been noted that we all it's really important that we stay on the record.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:18:54
thank you, so are we moving to revoked and are we happy to vote by acclamation, are we agreed agreed, thank you, I think, slightly easier, OK, wonderful, let's move on to motions of notice, which is item 11 on our agenda and we have one motion on notice from Councillor Stephen Scotland.
Cllr Stephen Scoffham - 1:19:16
so Councillor Skipper, represent the motion and then we will have 60 minutes to debate it well.
Councillor, as it might seem a little bit odd on all standing up and asking us just think about a global HPA spokeswoman heard so much about on, quite rightly, that local issues and the way that you mentioned the clearly providing a service to the local community is fundamental to our role, but I'm going to argue would suggest that what this motion is about is how we can respond in St practice are an issue that affects us all, nationally, internationally and Local
I expect that you, if you're watching the maintenance the Executive films at 1.00 time or another, has been going on shifted from going on governance and although to the point of need better, word on nasal celebration of the wild Matthews planning, and that has grabbed the imagination, not any form of mine, and also young people of costs will be personally made once evaluation schools and very enthusiastic about the way we receive at home and what David Attenborough has chronicled in extraordinary detail enormous variety of wildlife and telephone today but he's also particularly worried drawing attention to the dangers of wildlife and the decline of wildlife and that's what this motion was about.
so moving on, I'm not going to talk to all the figures in order reports because of Nixon's 150, but perhaps a key one from me as the living Planet report, which came out a couple of years ago over the last 50 years and had lost around the plant about two thirds of our wildlife and that is in short notice and equal were, at the same time is lost in Britain about one in six of issues which are now states or going speech and procedure between 1 effects. It doesn't it?
before I started going on all the time and they're going on party in the bathroom, so you don't really notice until I wonder if he's here is that you know if that enables it to continue that now you're born into the world now you accept that's what we've learned, so for their parents, who can, when his rights, rightly, that difference was more marvellous until where giant all with more wildlife, and this is a sort called keeping baseline feeding the set the world as it is. We don't notice that bit by bit year by year generation, by giving notice to the change and they are changes and the evidence
all the people who've sought about speak 25 19, biodiversity, and so on is that we are actually wearing to review its Mattocks extinction.
in terms of events, happening identity and will could actually end up in flames 140 180 minute, so is a very serious matter and it's a serious message globally, nationally and locally, and we can do something is afoot.
sorry proofing baseline, someone is booked enormous erosion of wildlife and habitats, maybe one way of sort of bringing it home and the different ways if you think about pandemics, the International, the damaging deceiving.
Ebola is the one officer appears to the Director caused by sharing the boroughs, Boris hadn't been cleared the animals into the cramped up in the world of work. Thinking if you get the bonus, you don't know about COVID and don't we know that filed with another one pops up there are more pandemic, does pandemic bring officers are seeking an end? They are absolutely crucial that that you know what services evidence Lucy Hurford with that awake at night, so that is something that was before
two months ago report focuses on involved. Would we had can you non-controversial National Assembly there was a lot 7 year old for those of you talked about the progress and she said paragraph close-ups she said, was it you continues on the Councillor Wadsworth is also it was noted
if you were to ask me what I would say, if the animals are extinct, we go extinct because we need to be balanced plant, so because we need so we can plant and survived and the humans go extinct, well, the world's might actually go so she's from his up on a couple of sentences.
a really serious problem and seven-year old, putting it on the table and arguing for something to be done safely.
was undertaken between George taking action on nature of was probably the most obviously the most important gifts that will be good for the District Council, definitely generations.
Brighton and think about that, you might want to come back and say 1920 somethings with more important, but if I say, if you require pieces of what is suggested that Woking has consulted all items caring for nature is probably what matters is unlikely when you are so actions were aware of all of this because you can easily get overwhelmed by this 40 talking until such as doom and gloom scenario well this Council from 2019 it available. Brian received multiple emergency really good baseline to work from.
on climate change and by the properties are interrelated year intertwined, you can't have one without the other, one of the problems we've got at the moment, the 25th of purpose very strongly on 0 carbon you should read, but actually you have to look at the bigger picture and trees to Carthamartha references to the bottom above biosphere what before crossing the plan meets people's needs for them.
when we've made up, but I wasn't involved with the declaration when this Council neglect of arrangements, six items 5 of the magazine's climate change one from Mr. Dealing with some challenging current biodiversity, so this motion as it were top for me on updates what we've had in 2019 and is a useful baseline the the mutual so that's work together we do have we all know someone who advocates you've got some wonderfully in garments Romney Marsh is internationally famous quite rightly so and because he's Multi-Bank relevance of the protection order has been costed in pounds in North Down and softened goal or marketing important property.
so these are internationally and nationally important landscapes, with whirring August speech we need a refugee has way.
there are some encouraging time the National Mitchell recovering discussions with the central government is doing purposes locally by Maltese thanks a lot for the second version of it, and we are very much involved with helping to formulating, designed to contribute to that policy which will feed through into planning issues in due course so mental spatial nature of version.
we are involved in drafting upwards,
one of the other things I write to flag up was in 2001, the state of nature in Kent report. Now that's another, one of his excellency QC courtesy was humbling out that one of the conclusions and observations in that is a partnership of the heart and successful action and that, where action is joined across landscape, the outcomes against a message inside the key word. There are partnerships working with others and go through joint actions on a common problem, and this is the problem. Is we're all emboldened
and we can all core together, but you can turn it round and look at it the other way.
director of the Deputy general at the WWF was Wide Fund for nature, says we all know what's happening, we know the risks and we know the solutions, as it goes on to say red lights are flashing your plastering everyone in the villages and then what are we going to do about it? So that's the reason for this resolution and you probably will have the chance to look at it, but the motions or Vincent, it's to say at the end, what are you actually going to do? That's really hard, what are we going to do, or what are we going to do? That doesn't have services because spending money, we haven't got, because your point in doing well, so it's one thing to declare an emotionally percent that's all dreadful or is an emergency out. What are we going to do so? There are nine things for to continue to enhance biodiversity across our own estate and the land e-mail me, and let you need to know until that's we then are them bit to continue to raise public awareness of ecological emergency and the way that can be addressed with our partners and communities, and in brackets are especially young people.
because they are 100%. Aware of what's going on is absolutely no doubt about what's to recognise the value of natural solutions for climate change. Interestingly, Councillor Martin and myself were compensation at Grange Road yesterday, Southern Water will say natural solutions for our problems at 1.00 you really want to pursue, we want to stop, there can come on to the system so notice. The voices are everywhere, the enthusiasm of Europe's and Apple during yourself, so recognising that natural solutions at number three for continued to end ranks implement the Green and Blue infrastructure Strategy which we've already got on that. If you've got lots of wonderful things in this version, trying to make it happen, and Glynda comment that's what we when we got from you know what we do
in making it happen. The KCC, as making space for a link from strategy, is developing lots and been board. Let's see what we can to support that work with number 7 to enhance community initiatives and partnerships that promote biodiversity and some funding from the unions. Yes was written with regard to the sloppy grants properties and said he was taking over a long time, but we will do everything and options and all sorts of things coming up got the corporate plan. When can we get this into the corporate plan when we go out to consultation environment in the probably decided it was there in the portraits land. In fact, the environment underpins the corporate plan and all sorts of ways of your falls and
to consider the resources required to deal with and finally to report progress on the action or these actions, which will come up options, review performance reporting framework, which we've already got so a whole series of of of Mark, as we do not want to say yes, we recognise that there is a windfall for the national services which are actually take on that on, although not all the faster you can do it, that's not our job, but what actions can you take? No comment to address? The problem is to do our bit and if everything he does so, but did not Watson, that's what matters we've got a certain amount of car. I'm very pleased that Councillor Lockwood, with the references actually for various things in that you picked up from local MPs who aunties must as well hospital and seems dear orangery solutions
which when I read that our thoughts 40 without sustainability Gloucester, because it's not agreed it is yours, hopefully, visionary sustainability settlements, Bartók's recommended likely to you, I hope that it's one year enough to give you a fall in the ground and we Bronwyn whilst urgent matters.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:31:09
thank you, and do we have a seconder for that nation?
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:31:12
Councillor Michael April, and would you like to speak?
Cllr Mike Blakemore - 1:31:18
thank you Chair, I just want to welcome the motion, I think it's very, very well very valuable, possibly overdue, since 2019 taken us five years for this supplement to the original motion, but but it's very, very welcome and in that time the biodiversity crisis has increased, I think, though the the 9 measures are very sensible ones.
my question really was just whether there is more we can do to encourage, so through the planning process we encourage net by De diversity gain.
whether we can do that with existing landowners and existing businesses, whether there's more, we can do to encourage them to play their part in this, because it's great we work with partners, it's great we work with the community. I just wonder what more we can do
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:32:06
really, thank you, so this is now open for debate and we have Councillor Windle Trust. Thank you Chair and thank you, Councillor
Cllr David Wimble - 1:32:14
Swaffham, I'm a little I get what you're saying
that the world is changing and we need to change, I get what the problems we thought is that my personal family farming from you, we go back generations on the Marsh.
if you go back 15 years we had four and a half thousand people living on the Marsh, narrower 20,000 people living on the Marsh
we are planning to build more houses, hospital part I think it was a superb solution to get him rural houses locally, that we've got more developments, coming on the Marsh which has taken up more farmland for that for farmers, no how to run their land trust me, they know better than governments Bexon specialist because they've done degeneration. What worries me is what you actually asking us to do. We are Councillor, I don't know about science and physics. I'm just a councillor, I'm all for the best society we have for our future
and I I get very worried when, for example, you know the Conservative Group, I myself have been trying to push nuclear energy because it's carbon neutral and I'm very pleased that the new MPs apparently trying to break that, so that's a good thing, but a few weeks ago when we are trying to get this put into the corporate plan was told that you know losing, I mentioned nuclear energy when in fact Councillor Cooper said that he wanted to see different things for the Marsh green energy I wind farms and solar farms that is killing of pressures, farming land,
so farming is just important, is building houses, so I'm not sure what Councillor Swaffham is actually asking us to do, as councils are in to support a greenery environment which everybody really must do when no we've had a Green Council now for 15 months they've had control of the purse strings, we had a load of money that we put aside for the green infrastructure, I just want to know what are we actually doing as a Council?
thank you, Councillor Tony Hills.
thank you Chair.
Councillor Tony Hills - 1:34:23
I do support Councillor swapping his intentions, I do and I sympathise with his views, and I'm why his enthusiasm these subjects or I'm worried, I am very well.
I believe climate change is real and happening. I believe wildlife would have said that where possible, and we all have to do the same.
Over the last 10 years, I've seen dramatic changes in our coastal waters.

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species moving north are warm seas or warning the additional species manual and to cooler waters, leaving us will be graded, local citizens not mashed attaches fishermen and we haven't changed the chat, complete changing environment, and this is going to be a problem last Sunday.
we've had the hottest day on record for the year.
17.8 we incentivise.
it's going up on a regular basis besides changing the housing warming oceans.
to generate more energy into the weather and basically that on me will have more extreme weather, surgeon and more rainfall, this sort of stuff, and there's nothing we can do about that is true, because stop that is already in the flood we can mitigate next year next century party is one is class does costs.
I in my current role I work in the coastal strategy for Kent and I'm supporting making space for nature and the WRES, and we must do what we can to protect nature.
and I fear we can have for adults, and the most important part nature to me is our local versions of people are now going to have to adapt to, and I think we should be looking into that
in more serious difficult times they are a-changing,
thank you, Councillor Tony Cooper, thank you Chair, I see what you say
Cllr Tony Cooper - 1:36:20
encounters scruffy, and I don't disagree with what you say neither, however, can I just make it points here when we have the debate over dangerous and yet remarks last year.
I did not say about, and I quote, wanted, wind farms on the Marsh at all what I said it would be call at that meeting was that I come from, the Marshall said I also said it would be good to see people being given opportunities to start or businesses and new and the work et cetera.
so, as far as I'm concerned, yes, it would be nice and ideal throughout the smarter Sentencing Act, but at this moment in time, suddenly that is a long way away, and I feel what we've got to do in the meantime it's put something in place for that for the future.
the government will just be struggling, swimming welcomes encouraging.
thank you, Councillor Jane structure.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:37:13
Cllr James Butcher - 1:37:17
thank you, Chair, Councillor Scott master's the question, what works, the best gift we can give future generations and Prince, William at the process in July 2 years ago, said together, if we harness the very best of humankind and restore our planet, we will protect it for our children, for our grandchildren and for future generations to come they'll be able to say with pride at what's been achieved what a wonderful world
as Councillor Hill says, wildlife will attempt to adapt to changing climate changing conditions. The question is whether wildlife can adapt fast enough.
and we've seen in the motion the statistics on the struggle species have and the catastrophic decline in many species, I was hosting a climate event on Sunday and passers-by, and the lies were talking about the changes they'd noticed in their lifetime acquires, a dawn chorus fewer butterflies,
you're a bug splats on the car windscreen, not seen greenfinches and yellowhammers in the way they used to as a child those species are not adapting and, as Councillor Scotland said, these are all warning lights flashing on the dashboard clean enough for all of us to see.
if we think about 7 year old that Councillor Schofield quoted over the last number says something very similar, the natural world is changing and we are totally dependent on that world, it provides our food, water and air is the most precious thing we have and we need to defend it, so I hope we can all support the motion.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:38:52
thank you, Councillor, Jackie me.
Cllr Jackie Meade - 1:38:56
thank you Chair, I'm quite lucky Councillor Womble because I actually went back to university and took a honours degree in environmental science and studies, so this is something very close to my heart. I support this motion because I totally agree with new tyranny that we need to be looking at mitigation, but within those mitigations we need to be encouraging what is in this motion to actually support the wildlife to continue whilst we're actually trying to deal with the other problems we need to keep it going. We need to hold it up with some love Ross, we're trying to sort out the other issues that are going on, and that's why I support this. How we can help without good agriculture and what we should do. I think you'll find that a lot of farmers now are actually quitting Los along their field, where the action cutting in wildlife meadow flowers to actually help the base, and it's all part of the line, which is also our guide through the Kent County as well. So there's a lot of work going on, and I do agree that by putting something formally in place we're doing the right thing, but I'd also add one of the things that's the most rewarding thing for me as a Councillor is, I managed to put some raised beds into one of our local primary schools and I go along and I teach the children and the importance of growing their own food so they know where their food is coming from, they know all about the bees and butterflies and why they are so important, and I just me he would one quote from last year and that was I never Newark's motto came from a plant
thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:40:43
fantastic, thank you, Councillor Belinda Walker.
Cllr Paul Thomas - 1:40:50
I'll keep this fairly brief. I was also at me climate thing with their Councillor Butcher, and that was a really quite telling or echo everything he said, but it is just the case is doing what we can. I think I'm fortunate to have a garden. I have some wildflowers, I'll have more beans than last year more butterflies than last year, but I have two noticed a decline. I wanted the Council to encourage people to do things individually, but also do what this town does best and come together as a community. We saw the
while 70 people talking about the wildlife on the secretary and heightened a group of volunteers and what things like incredible edible, going on other school gardens, kindly actually encourage communities to come together and do things individually with it does seem a little bit overwhelming, and I know walked out bristling proceed unfortunately titled being one of the most nature depleted countries on our planet, which is not something you should follow.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:41:45
thank you, Councillor Jim Martin.
Cllr Jim Martin - 1:41:50
thank you, Chair, or could, is this really great, it is is something that no one incrementalist high I'd on our ALMO fraction of broader Councillor Scott North, but what I do know is bad obstacle.
and wow there's a larger of a land adoptable, which is principally grass, and it's been kept as grass for many, many years, the the unzipped alone I spray regularly.
just to keep graphs grounds, killed everything else just grass. What we're doing at possible is introducing water
and that water who send granddaughters in through the roof, so we've got a planning commitment to increase biodiversity or Nautico by 20%, we will do that standing on our hands.
we willing increased part others by an incredible, a percentage that just one other thing on an article.
the river star the runs, no, we that's where we're drawing into one which only to the west of categories, the Stodmarsh, and instead so so all development, more or less in Canterbury inaccurate is in as has no solution because they don't have a solution to our Environment Agency code, neutral neutrality, it's all about the phosphates, they've been sprayed O'MULLANE over the years draining into the watercourse joining into Stodmarsh,
when this Council will have a solution, admittedly is gonna cost 26 million pounds.
but nevertheless, we have a solution to neutralise each other in had at obstacle, that is what the article environmental credentials are so high, not only do we increase or the adversity, so no are inset camp at Burton as small mammal can go through the roof and that we action Scott Collinson start Marsh, so you know we are 100% support the motion we are already doing some stuff, thank you.
thank you Councillor Procter's.
thank you Chair.
Cllr Paul Thomas - 1:44:14
I support what Councillor swollen has said this evening and I think it's good that we get our.
ducks lined up when it comes to you know what we can do specifically on what they seemed to me and was being presented to us tonight, a weaker part of our strategy going forward, the carbon action part of that seems to be fairly robust, but again I think Councillor softens, just sort of progress and it will be to say that all of the things that we need to do.
when you look at the carbon action Plan, one of the things I think that we haven't done particularly well is actually engage with with local people. We can't do this on our own, we have to have the rest of the district with us, we have to take them along with us. We have to be able to articulate that in a way, and I think putting something in the Corporate Plan and something that we have taking that we will be taking out to consultation in the very near future. It is a good vehicle for doing that, so I support what so at what stupid says tonight we didn't have the policy any to on biodiversity, and maybe we need to have a really good look at that as well to say, how can we lift the things that came out, the corporate plan and make sure is embedded in what we do and then if we live it, then we can actually communicate that to the best of the residents and say this is what we need to do going forward. Thank you Chair. Thank you, Councillor Colin Blakemore
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:45:32
thank you Chair.
Cllr Polly Blakemore - 1:45:35
yeah, listening to what's being said this evening, I think.
it goes without crossing, this is something that we owe to our children, our grandchildren and all the young people in the district, and savings and costs to sit were and pontificate if you like, but you know that things are equal features.
at in question, and I think you know, Stephen is very, quite start tightening way spelled out what there are, but they will picture, is something bought a dance classes at a district level and those are drawing tangible objectives that we can easily work towards and are demeans and O'Brien Yes 19,
dimension.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:46:20
Cllr Gary Fuller - 1:46:23
thank you, thank you, Councillor Gary Fowler, thank you, Jay actually are post-concert barista Councillor enforcing before the report because I actually think it is really quite modest motion that was not particularly controversial or even that exciting in terms of what it's doing because all it's doing is is codifying and recognise the things that.
I we've already begun to deny be, we should be doing and see, hopefully we're going to continue to do, but it does so in a way that keeps in in mind keeps it Crocus, it keeps us driven and that's really what purpose it serves. We, we all know this problem. We all know we can't solve the world's problems, but we know what we can do lightly. We've started some of that, we're doing some of that, but we just need to keep that in Potiskum, and that's what this allows us today, and that's why this encourages today, and I absolutely some coordination
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:47:14
Cllr Jeremy Speakman - 1:47:18
thank you, Councillor Jeremy Speakman age, I just again I wanted to support Councillor Scotland motion but also just to point out, I guess it comes within my portfolio that we have some really good opportunities already within the Council's redeems already good work or grant where we all talked about the the Green Flag status will surely God, because of our beautiful parks and we've got rumblings or biodiversity areas which the groundstaff are maintaining and I think doing an incredibly good job, we've also got the Rodney Marsh visitor centre, which I think has the potential to be a real gem, and I think you need to be doing all we can to encourage local communities to really get hold of this. So I'm looking to Newgarth subsequently current work
I am sure will be talking to borrow from other unaffordable.
Councillor look.
thank you Chair.
Cllr Adrian Lockwood - 1:48:10
yeah, I think there's a strong message coming forward about how we can apply the 9 point to encourage and we engage with our local communities and bringing them on board and are all full of house.
in response to my name's cycles, being part, neither hygiene.
asked the question of the entities morning and the prime minister responded by saying the Labour party fully back nature recovery, there will be buttons.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:48:43
thank you, have we got any other Councillors who wish to speak on this?
no, okay, so if Councillor Scott from would like to sum up before we
Cllr Stephen Scoffham - 1:48:52
take a vote, yes from others into the discussion was breaking point, and it's great to hear is especially at this time about that's such an important issue and the different use. It should be noted and welcomed them on. I'll just say that Gary Loughlin, we certainly not an option which shouldn't be options will need to be doing something where we need to be seen to be doing something
this needs to be some form which this Council is associated with these events. The council sorry for lots of different things, but I would like to think that it's associated with positive action to deal with the absolute more pressing issue of our times if we don't put on leadership role then what is helpful for you know we we appear at public events
Will Dawson will give them offer, because I lost the argument rather than exciting, 19.
I also note you, or what at 1.00 of the titles and then to hear moderate offering a dual gender which we can build on continue to build on and go from strength to strength and young people are well aware of the insurgency honest and the we are well aware that we are running out of time and we're going over a precipice of one kind or another, and that's a very dark conversation. We don't like to have it, but we're very aware of for what we know. What is the teaching from 19 due to see what sort of building again to inherit if you got two thirds of the world's species disappearing? 50 years was going to happen over the next 50 years, and the implications of that are absolutely devastated. If you actually suitable on the pandemic in the bring it home to sort of argument about me, I want you condemn the party meetings. Absolutely crucial audience, so because we don't know what is around the corner bay and that's rental explanation, there is lots of information refuting, sending a dreadful you may be aware under the world is nigh. I don't want to get into that type of scenario. Also, look at the evidence, look at what scientists determine and the messages coming across from of.
also looking for police and, as a result, which is ones like the least, they are reliable. So one other point, I don't think that the paintings put off the wellbeing sequel and the Wellbeing and Environmental officers, I think they go together and throw the problem about. How do we manage housing and decent housing proposal? Hardware manager greeted environments. They are two things which are linked together and are not such that they're not. Obviously we can do both of them, and that's certainly a message, it becoming impossible not to compete way. I think the point you were making, Councillor Martin, you got 44 to thank the prime example of the way in which people policing, teenage in no more housing and better lives in many richly volume. We can do it if we want to do so. It's mostly notice of decision making the right decisions for other those with our provoke things. Motoring groups vote for the future, wrote to young people, vote for taking a leadership role, your stronger Guildford confidence in both that's all and go faster, that there is a baseline. I'd like to be coming back into our firms, taking the brothers
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:52:15
thank you, thank you, so we will take this to the vote and will do this for a show of hands, so as those in favour can you please raise your hands.
I think that is unanimous, similar all agreed, thank you.
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:52:31
OK, so we'll move on to Item 12 on the agenda.
the report from the I or P on the Members' Allowance scheme and I believe Councillor Prater is going to propose this, so would you like to say something Councillor Peter, thank future?
Cllr Tim Prater - 1:52:53
yes, I would like to propose this isn't the most exciting piece of business, so please bear with me, but I will keep it very brief,
the report is exactly as set in front of you.
it deals with the expense allowance scheme as it is now through until
May next year, so while the remainder of the existing system and there will be a subsequent report detailing changes when we go into the committee system, but we're giving separate this is the now there will be a subsequent report which deals with the future.
the main report which you have in front of you.
broadly, doesn't change allowances, Poole, Cabinet Member for mental illnesses or the that would apply, that actually duties for leaders allowance should take it, but it doesn't.
and
it makes no alterations to councillors' allowances in terms of our basic and I want either, so there is no additional significant cost this Council, what it does do is proposed some changes an improved and gives more flexible support for those who find being at Councillor hardest and at times that they find it very closest that's around carers, parents and the disabled and improving improving some of the support that we can give to those
I think that is absolutely in line with what we should be doing. It is clearly an independent panel report, so it is Councillor people outside of this Council, we make representations to them, they went away and thought about. It took some of our ideas, didn, agreements our ideas and come back with its recall. I think the report as well balance I'd like to thank Chris Harman. Paul Murphy are strict weeks and Williams by work and is broadly and remunerated. This is Councillor lending ratings get
and it took him some time in terms of the the report together, and I would like to thank them for their work, and the recommendations at 5.59 are on the paper in front of you and I'd ask you to support us
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:54:59
having to move. Thank you and do we have a seconder Councillor Jim Martin, would you like to speak on this now on time happy to second? Thank you.
Cllr Jim Martin - 1:55:07
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:55:07
and it's now open to debate if Members have any more, I'd like to say about it
Cllr Anita Jones - 1:55:17
no, okay, are we all agreed with the recommendations?
thank you, and that's the end of our meeting for this evening, can I just wish you a lovely summer and I hope the sun shines a little bit more than it has so far.